One day, people will understand that Sentry isn't a Superman-like being but a reality warper beyond the scope of the other Marvel characters (that's not my fault ! I didn't know that he was one when I decided my nickname ! I swear !)...
But now....
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Originally posted by Galan007
DD's biggest potential bugaboo here is Sentry's physicality -- he has never adapted beyond death by physical means. Even with that in mind, DD treated MB-amped Supes(whose stats were massively amped) as though he was a weak feeb -- so I'm not exactly convinced that Sentry has the physicality required to put him down anyway(though I am open to the possibility, IF I see sufficient proof.) /shrug
Lets try to remember that DSentry was portrayed as having as much physical strength (or at least 50% for those who want to lowball the feat and ignore what the writer was trying to convey) as all the Earth bound hero's combined had. Step back for a second and drink that in. Do you realize how strong he must be? It has to be astronomical.
Originally posted by tkitna
Lets try to remember that DSentry was portrayed as having as much physical strength (or at least 50% for those who want to lowball the feat and ignore what the writer was trying to convey) as all the Earth bound hero's combined had. Step back for a second and drink that in. Do you realize how strong he must be? It has to be astronomical.
Technically Rogue was just a two-bit player because if we look at it logically.
A Skyfather (ofc Odin or Zeus) can amp himself to be significantly stronger physically than a lot of heroes.
A Celestial like Arishem can do the same stuff relative to Skyfathers.
And Exitar is said to be stronger than the complete 4th Celestial Host.
Logically, the point of the scene was to show that the combined power of all Earth Heroes was nothing to Exitar and that Sentry could match it.
Originally posted by RealityWarperABC logic doesn't work here. Skyfathers often don't amp their physical strength when fighting. So Odin against Celestials has no bearing on Sentry lifting Exitars foot (with help). Unless Odin was shown to amp his strength and attempt to lift Exitars foot then ABC logic works.
Technically Rogue was just a two-bit player because if we look at it logically.A Skyfather (ofc Odin or Zeus) can amp himself to be significantly stronger physically than a lot of heroes.
A Celestial like Arishem can do the same stuff relative to Skyfathers.
And Exitar is said to be stronger than the complete 4th Celestial Host.
Logically, the point of the scene was to show that the combined power of all Earth Heroes was nothing to Exitar and that Sentry could match it.
Originally posted by h1a8
ABC logic doesn't work here.
It's not a question of ABC logic but more a question of knowing the lore of Marvel.
I merely stated evidence in the Cosmic Hierarchy.
Skyfathers often don't amp their physical strength when fighting.
I'm speaking about Energy Potential, Bro.
So Odin against Celestials has no bearing on Sentry
It has for the reasons I've just stated.
lifting Exitars foot
Lifting is a truly bad term.
Sentry wasn't lifting Exitar.
Exitar was pushing down to the Earth and Sentry was pushing him up.
Rogue was nothing but a useless participant as her contribution to the feat was only cosmetic.
All of Rogue's power wasn't enough to slow down Exitar.
If that was the case she could have at least hold him or slow him down a bit.
(with help).
(Which was useless)
Unless Odin was shown to amp his strength and attempt to lift Exitars foot then ABC logic works.
Read my two posts in the chronological order.
The point is that Odin can't match the physical power of a single Celestial, especially without prep'
Originally posted by Galan007
I was taking that feat into consideration.But given how massive of an amp H/P Superman had ala the Motherbox... And the strength-difference that STILL existed between he and DD... I am not quite convinced that Sentry would have the physicality to kill him outright. /shrug
Agreed. I dont know what the amp pushed him to tier wise. We just know it was massive. Definitely not arguing either way. Just saying it could be possible. It would be an interesting battle to see regardless.
Sentry only flew multiples of c while he was BFR'ing Thor off-world. If we're talking in-character here, then DD could certainly tag Sentry with the claws -- this version of Sentry loves monologuing. Do I think it would have the same effect on Sentry as it did on Superman? Definitely not.
That said, I don't see flight as any sort of deciding factor here, mainly because it has never been a deciding factor in any of DD's battles(the higher-end versions of DD, that is.) Most of the beings DD has shredded through over the years were capable of flight, after all. /shrug
Originally posted by Pillow Biter
Sentry's access to his full power is highly inconsistent. Death Sentry may be Sentry's Zenith as a flying brick, but can he really access all of Sentry's reality warping powers?
Technically Sentry can access consciously to his reality warping power since Dark Avengers #12 because that's the moment he understood that he could do the same stuff that the Cosmic Cube-beings plus the power and minus the skills.
Sentry got rid of his agoraphobia when he stayed "dead" in the Sun and the Death Seed changed his personality in the one of the Horseman of Death which removed his schizophrenia. Horsemen are as crazy as a pack of nuts but they don't have the morals that limited Sentry's views about his powers so now he is closer to use his full potential. He doesn't limit himself ton one aspect via roleplaying a good or a bad persona, Sentry & the Void (willingly and unwillingly). We saw him using Infinitendrils and be more aware of his true nature.
In order to fully understand his true nature, Bob should simply stop seeing himself as a "flesh and bone character" as his true nature is one closer to the Abstracts in his conception: He only has the physical form that he wishes.
Originally posted by Pillow Biter
Has he ever done any reality warping as Death Sentry?
Maybe some molecular manipulation:
Originally posted by Pillow Biter
Sure. I'm in complete agreement that Sentry is in theory capable of obliterating Doomsday. And that Death Sentry is also in theory capable of everything Sentry was (or at least as far as we know).
But what's true in theory and true in comic book practice can be very different things.
Yep. That's because the story matters more than the characters themselves and it's truly not interesting to read comic books to read fights without a story behind.
