Addressing stupidity #2: Starkiller's feat

Started by Zenwolf4 pages
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Gosh find out for yourself. 🙂

I have and I've found reentry only is 3,000 F. They clearly had protection from that level of heat.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The damage was evidently severe enough that it was already in the process of breaking apart.
Tbh that would only really matter if he just tore it apart, but he atomised it.

Can you direct me to quotes that support that? Since Starkiller made note *it* (presumably the base ship) was probably going to hold together if not for his tampering.

^ doesn't that make his blowing it up more impressive?

Compared to what alternative?

Some people think it was already falling apart and he just accelerated the process or something.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Can you direct me to quotes that support that? Since Starkiller made note *it* (presumably the base ship) was probably going to hold together if not for his tampering.
I don't know where it says that, but its repeatedly noted how the ship is threatening to tear apart, forcing Galen to hold it together + keep it steady:

"Barely a minute into the dive, Starkiller knew he had to move. Nebulon-B frigates weren't designed for rapid reentry. Anything over eight hundred kilometers an hour risked tearing off control vanes and external sensors-and the Salvation was already doing far in excess of that.

[...]

The ship was seriously unbalanced now. It shuddered underfoot, pulling wildly in different directions. If he was going to prevent it slipping into an uncontrollable rumble or rearing apart, he had to act quickly and decisively.

[...]

This was where it got difficult. He needed to maintain the Force shield against the sort of hear he might find in the outer layers of a star. He also had to keep in mind the target ahead-a target he couldn't see through the plasma, but had to hit square-on or else the planetary shield generators wouldn't fail. No matter what happened, he had to fly straight.

[...]

He raised his right arm, and the ship followed the movement, listing slowly and heavily to starboard. Some of the headlong shuddering faded, as though it were grateful to have someone at the helm again. Even the wind's shrieking seemed to ebb.

[...]

The Salvation's own shields were holding, barely, but even so it lost still more of its mass to the ongoing battering. Several lower decks peeled back and were swept away, including the bridge. Most of the short-range array was gone, leaving him with just the base to hold him steady. He clenched his hands into fists and willed the ship to keep going.

[...]

Carefully, wary of putting too much strain on an already overtaxed chassis, he nudged the Salvations nose down. If he came in low and hit the ocean first, he could concentrate the damage to one location. If he overreached by so much as a degree, he might miss the ocean completely and scrape a long, fiery line right through the heart of the facility.

The Salvation resisted. He pushed harder. The nose descended and held there for ten seconds, strain echoing all through the ship. It wasn't made for anything like this. Nothing larger than a starfighter was. Neither was he.

With a bone-jarring crack, the spine connecting fore and aft sections of the frigate snapped clean through. Starkiller reached out with the Force, trying desperately to keep the two pieces together, but nothing could be done. They were already moving on slightly different trajectories. Air and debris sprayed from the great wound that separated them, providing entirely unpredictable thrust."

Then it seems like the text contradicts itself, because it also blatantly states:

"It would physically hold together long enough-he was sure of that, but the controls in the bridge were already approaching useless."

That could be because he was holding it together.

Granted it's prob better for the feat if it were pretty durable when he blew it apart.

Honestly none of those quotes suggest he was holding it together instead of just piloting it, aside from the last one where he fails. But if he were already holding it together, he wouldn't reach out to try to do so in that quote anyway.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Tbh that would only really matter if he just tore it apart, but he atomised it.

Excuse me?

“Force, Starkiller embraced what remained of the frigate beneath him—and blew it into a billion pieces.

Excerpt From: Sean Williams. The Force Unleashed II.

Do you want to know how many more pieces there would be, had Starkiller reduced the ship to atoms? I'll give you a hint- it is estimated that 5 x 10^19 atoms are contained in a single grain of sand. Case in point - kek.

Gosh is this how you sustain your superiority complex? How utterly derivative, lmao.

Regardless I meant that he reduced it to very fine particles, which just so happens to be one of several definitions of "atomise". Kek.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/atomise

Atomise doesn't have to mean literally reduce to atoms, roflamo.

Yeah, I took him off ignore just to see how stupid his comment was.

So... around Darth Jadus tier then.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Ant's completely right, and it's still one of the best TK feats in this mythos.

Nice work, DarthAnt66 🙂

Time to call a spade a spade.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Gosh is this how you sustain your superiority complex? How utterly derivative, lmao.

Regardless I meant that he reduced it to very fine particles, which just so happens to be one of several definitions of "atomise". Kek.


Disintegration is more appropriate word.

Can you reload the picture Ant?

Ant, what happened to the picture in the OP?

The server I uploaded it to must have deleted it.

Pls attach it here, it was a work of art.