superman and sebastion shaw vs darkseid and apocalypse

Started by StiltmanFTW2 pages

Hey, don't be sad. It's the best message board on the web 😉

Do you still have the link to your old acc?

Lol...I do but it would be torturous for me to give you that because I know what you'll do with it. Bumping old threads spree. I know you stilt.

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Originally posted by carver9
Correction...I'll PM you the comic, not send it.

Tier thread doesn't give a good base for fights either though. Id put blink (meta) over some heralds for example

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Tier thread doesn't give a good base for fights either though. Id put blink (meta) over some heralds for example

And there is no darkseid on it

They left sky father's and Abstracts out and due to some of the people here (minimum), Darkseid is sky father level.

Originally posted by carver9
They left sky father's and Abstracts out and due to some of the people here (minimum), Darkseid is sky father level.

Darkseid is more on surfers level. Darkseid lost to galactus but whoever however.

Originally posted by rox
And there is no darkseid on it

His power levels vary from trans to sky based on incarnation

Originally posted by Sin I AM
His power levels vary from trans to sky based on incarnation

oh

Carver, you lied...

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And you admitted in the offtopic forum that's your acc!

Originally posted by rox
Darkseid is more on surfers level. Darkseid lost to galactus but whoever however.
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Are you phucking serious? He lost to galactus in a non canon fight. The guy has casually created validus (a character that smacks around superman and mon-el at the same time), casually beaten superman, and he's also hurt the spectre. You need to better educate yourself regarding these characters before you say anything else that's that phucking silly.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Carver, you lied...

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=53716

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And you admitted in the offtopic forum that's your acc!

LOL... I thought I created it back in 2001. My bad buddy and good find.

Originally posted by carver9
I was still here before him though. My Derrick acct (forgot the password) was registered back in 2001.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
Originally posted by deathslash
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Are you phucking serious? He lost to galactus in a non canon fight. The guy has casually created validus (a character that smacks around superman and mon-el at the same time), casually beaten superman, and he's also hurt the spectre. You need to better educate yourself regarding these characters before you say anything else that's that phucking silly.

Are you ******* serious. Canon or not he still lost and in an actual battle he would lose easily. Pretty much anyone except a few would loose to galactus.

Originally posted by rox
Are you ******* serious. Canon or not he still lost and in an actual battle he would lose easily. Pretty much anyone except a few would loose to galactus.
um......no. counting a non canon fight that was written several years ago does not by any means portray how it would happen in an actual fight. By the way, Galactus has lost to/been injured weaker characters than darkseid before. Also, it funny that you say that darkseid is in surfer's weight class while simultaneously ignoring that darkseid casually curbstomped him in the very same non canon comic that you enjoy bringing up.

PS: you did nothing to address how post crisis darkseid created a trans tier character, injured a cosmic abstract, created a different trans tier character out of nothing, injured a cosmic abstract that was threatening to destroy all of creation, stomped Superman (the pinacle of the high herald tier) into the ground, or how his mere presence was causing reality to collapse. You also didn't address how the new 52 version has fought and beat a team consisting of three high heralds, the Lord of order, and a multiversally empowered avatar of the green, casually destroys planets, was evenly matched with a multiversally empowered anti-moniter, or how he can destroy entire galaxies.

Originally posted by deathslash
um......no. counting a non canon fight that was written several years ago does not by any means portray how it would happen in an actual fight. By the way, Galactus has lost to/been injured weaker characters than darkseid before. Also, it funny that you say that darkseid is in surfer's weight class while simultaneously ignoring that darkseid casually curbstomped him in the very same non canon comic that you enjoy bringing up.

PS: you did nothing to address how post crisis darkseid created a trans tier character, injured a cosmic abstract, created a different trans tier character out of nothing, injured a cosmic abstract that was threatening to destroy all of creation, stomped Superman (the pinacle of the high herald tier) into the ground, or how his mere presence was causing reality to collapse. You also didn't address how the new 52 version has fought and beat a team consisting of three high heralds, the Lord of order, and a multiversally empowered avatar of the green, casually destroys planets, was evenly matched with a multiversally empowered anti-moniter, or how he can destroy entire galaxies.

I am still sorting through the new 52, but it depends on who is writing darkseid. Some write him as a limitless god and some write as a normal tier on supermans level. Same with superman.

Originally posted by rox
I am still sorting through the new 52, but it depends on who is writing darkseid. Some write him as a limitless god and some write as a normal tier on supermans level. Same with superman.
actually, pretty much all of (post crisis's) crappy showings have been retconned to it either being a much weaker avatar or desaad in disguise (which says something when even desaad can move so fast that superman can't see it). In the new 52, darkseid has consistently been portrayed as at least a skyfather level opponent. The only time that he wasn't portrayed this way in the new 52 was in his first appearance (and even then, he still oneshot the entire league). Honestly, post crisis darkseid is likely a mid-high level skyfather and new 52 DS is probably a mid tier cosmic abstract.