Meetra Surik vs Satele Shan

Started by AncientPower3 pages

ROT Bane's lightning required numerous bolts of lightning to char two mercenary guards to a husk over several seconds of screaming, comparatively Nyriss' single bolt of lightning charred two armoured guards to husks almost before they could scream.

ROT Bane's lightning storm incinerated Drexls, Nyriss' lightning storm reduced herself to ashes after penetrating her own Force barrier, which would've incinerated Scourge, who tanked Xedrix's gathered lightning storm, and a downed Meetra, who has tanked Force Lightning from Traya and Atris.

It's extremely potent lightning and arguing otherwise is just plain cancer.

@DMB, Calm your Bane wank, Nyriss' lightning hitting ROT Bane tier isn't relevant when Bane surpasses that in DOE.

Bane's lighting was noted to have been able to incinerate 4 of the Mercs, the only reason it didn't was because of Cognus' Force dampening ability.

He didn't stay down, however. He sprang back to his feet, simultaneously drawing his lightsaber with his right hand as he sent a blast of lightning out from the fingertips of his left. The violet bolts should have incinerated all four of his targets on the balcony, yet again the strange power interfering with his ability to draw upon the Force hindered his efforts.

That's the wrong quote, I'm referring to ROT not DOE. 😬

Assuming she abuses her TK, Satele in both. Otherwise, Meetra in both.

Satele's TK can't compare to Traya's TK, simple really.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Satele's TK can't compare to Traya's TK, simple really.

Wrong.

Satele Shan was also a prodigy.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Nyriss didn't even ash the guards

She did, and with barely an effort.

Who cares? Traya stomped three members of the Jedi High Council, and casually wrecked nearly twenty elite Sith with internal telekinesis in a flash.

She didn't ash them, she charred them to husks.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Who cares? Traya stomped three members of the Jedi High Council, and casually wrecked nearly twenty elite Sith with internal telekinesis in a flash.

She didn't ash them, she charred them to husks.


Satele Shan also has solid telekinetic abilities.

1. She brought down a massive tree while holding Darth Malgus at bay.

2. She overwhelmed Darth Malgus with her powers that also disintegrated a large rocky formation as collateral damage.

3. She disintegrated a reinforced door with a touch.

4. She wrecked a dozen Hex droids with a gesture.

5. She also has formidable defensive abilities.

She certainly has the raw power and abilities to contend with and/or defeat Meetra Surik. Though, this might be a good match for both.

Given none of those compare to Traya stating that Meetra can pull a ship out of the orbit of Malachor V and use it to escape, I'm going to risk your wrath and suggest Meetra is certainly capable of matching Satele Shan's telekinesis.

"elite Sith"

Originally posted by AncientPower
ROT Bane's lightning required numerous bolts of lightning to char two mercenary guards to a husk over several seconds of screaming, comparatively Nyriss' single bolt of lightning charred two armoured guards to husks almost before they could scream.

ROT Bane's lightning storm incinerated Drexls, Nyriss' lightning storm reduced herself to ashes after penetrating her own Force barrier, which would've incinerated Scourge, who tanked Xedrix's gathered lightning storm, and a downed Meetra, who has tanked Force Lightning from Traya and Atris.

It's extremely potent lightning and arguing otherwise is just plain cancer.

@DMB, Calm your Bane wank, Nyriss' lightning hitting ROT Bane tier isn't relevant when Bane surpasses that in DOE.


I feel I should also point out that the examples of ROT Bane's lightning you are using are from the beginning of the novel, the first one literally taking place right after POD, and the storm taking place when Bane only had two Orbalisks and hadn't really started tapping them for power yet.

Nyriss's lightning is Dooku+ though for sure.

It's also a false comparison between Bane's storm and Nyriss'. Nyriss charged hers up for several seconds and put all her power into it, while Bane attacked immediately with a one-handed blast while moving at high speed. That Bane casually loosed a massive storm of power that engulfed a huge monster and disintegrated its riders is a testament to his power.

In the case of AP's first example Bane was intending to put on a show. He even did the fancy Kotor hand above head form of lightning. Obviously, as seen in the above case, he can far exceed merely cooking people.

I'm benchmarking Nyriss' lightning, being Bane tier at all is crazy.

Given the disparity between incinerating beasts and incinerating/ashing powerful Force users, I'd say that makes up for the difference in effort.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Satele Shan also has solid telekinetic abilities.

1. She brought down a massive tree while holding Darth Malgus at bay.

2. She overwhelmed Darth Malgus with her powers that also disintegrated a large rocky formation as collateral damage.

3. She disintegrated a reinforced door with a touch.

4. She wrecked a dozen Hex droids with a gesture.

5. She also has formidable defensive abilities.

She certainly has the raw power and abilities to contend with and/or defeat Meetra Surik. Though, this might be a good match for both.

Yeah, all this is right. I'm not downplaying Surik at all, it's just Satele's Force power is insane and hugely underrated here. Keep in consideration what Malgus was capable of, how he recovered from that mountain and continued to Force choke a Jedi. The amount of destructive power Satele overpowered Malgus with is nothing short of insane.

Whilst amped by the energies of a lightsaber blade, you mean.

Energy she absorbed and withstood on her own. It wasn't a nexus energy amping her outside - she absorbed the energy herself and contained it, and she herself was the conduit and only she stood behind channeling that energy.

Which whilst an incredibly impressive Control showing, still doesn't negate the fact that her telekinetic Alter attacks following it were clearly disproportionate to her base level. She isn't ragdolling Darth Malgus on average.

Which doesn't disprove the fact she can oneshot Meetra

Meetra SLAUGHTERHOUSE.

Meters should take 'sabers based on the fact of Satale not having much in the way skill feats to begin with. Not sure about Force, but Surik should win all out, too.