Yaddle - sabers only gauntlet

Well Kyp's force feats are pretty established tbh. It's his lightsaber feats that need a bit more fleshing out.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Holy shit. This brand of cancer should be banned in all 50 states.

I do. Hence, why Myth's "case" is tantamount to Leukemia.

Ah, sorry. Didn't see the line below the quote and I thought you were just quoting his argument in agreement due to you two being boo bears.

Kyps feats are etablished, but mostly from his early career. Naturally there is the Dovin-Basal feat, which is more than impressive, and let him be extremely high in power-when he concentrates. He lacks Combat feats in general.

My case, darling, follows the same guidelines as a case for either why Plagueis, or in your situation, Desann or Kyp are good duelists, just for an obscure character.

I can see Yaddle beating Kyp, but how does she beat Mara, Saba and Lobia without struggle?

Ordinary? The ****? An wounded Saba is an superior to Hamner, she is superior to Corran and is recognized by Caedus as Threath. He also says that about Katarn though, which was semi-bested(by an wounded Caedus I think). But, imo more impressive, is that he also says that she would easily beat Leia. While I doubt that is it true, through Leias massive Force Powers, It could be true-maybe an little hyperbolish- in case of Sabers. So she is superior to Leia by an fair marigin, which was >=Alema Rar, which has beaten Yuuzhan Vong far bevore prime. Easily, IIRC. Said Alema, was bested by Tresina Lobi, which statlemated her even when Lumiya-which is impressive-for an Time. I don't know many of Maras Feats, but she Statlemated Lumiya.

Originally posted by MythLord
My case, darling, follows the same guidelines as a case for either why Plagueis, or in your situation, Desann or Kyp are good duelists, just for an obscure character.

Yeah, but the way your articulated it was rather terrible, tbh. Even taking that rout, Yaddle isn't getting past Durron. Kyp's raw power, and mastery of the Force very well exceeds Yaddle. Kyp actually ha actual feats, such as wrecking Vong Warriors in droves, besting Grutchin, Battle Hydra, stalemating Jaina, so on and forth.

Mastery? While Kyp is no slouch here, how is he above Yaddle? Just curious.

He's a comparable duelist to Kyle Katarn who alongside Kam stands as a Legendary battlemaster.

Given how Luke compares Kyp to one of the most knowledgable duelists in the NJO it shows that he thinks quite highly of Kyps dueling ability tbh

Then of course you have Kyps raw power and incredible force ability

His Sabers accolades do I know.
It would be blasphemic to compare Yaddles Raw Power with those of Kyp.
But what has Kyp in Terms of mastery that makes him better.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Mastery? While Kyp is no slouch here, how is he above Yaddle? Just curious.

To answer this question; how exactly do you define mastery in the Force?

My english is bad, lel.
Wounded Saba beating Kenth and Lobi beating Rar easily, and holding her own against Alema and Lumiya. And I've never said that they were better in TK-this is sabers only.
And Kyp>>>Yaddle in TK.

@Deronn_Solo Mastering the Force as much as they can. Sorry, I can't really explain now. I mean it in the Sense, that Yaddle can't master things like Luke can, while she just haven't the raw power to do so. But I am not sure in this anymore, as Kyp and Jacen should be roughly equals in potentials, while Jacen has far superior mastery. Kyp is still superior in regards of the force, and he could propably ragdolling him if fully concentrated.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Yeah, but the way your articulated it was rather terrible, tbh. Even taking that rout, Yaddle isn't getting past Durron. Kyp's raw power, and mastery of the Force very well exceeds Yaddle. Kyp actually ha actual feats, such as wrecking Vong Warriors in droves, besting Grutchin, Battle Hydra, stalemating Jaina, so on and forth.

Yаddle's affinity for the Force is rivalling Yoda's, which implies similar raw power; his mastery of the Force doesn't exceed Yaddle who had centuries to master the Force itself and has learned every Force technique in and beyond the Jedi Temple Archives, which are the largest store of data in Galactic history, rivalling/surpassing the Ossuss Library.

And while Yaddle lacks feats in terms of overall combat, she does have some excellent speed feats, and speed usually plays a large part in combat.

And I'm not saying she'd get past Kyp(that's a debate for another day, I suppose), but to suggest Kyp or Kam rape her is just ridiculous. Though, knowing you, it was probably a hyperbolic statement on your part, no?

I think my definition of Force Mastery is the same as of MythLord. @MythLord where do you think Yaddle stand in Combative Force Abilities? Tyrannus Level? Anakin Level?