If you buy Hype pushing a universe.
I dunno, the universe was following along with Earth, so I'm thinking the universe basically followed Earth wherever it went, instead of being "moved". (Can you say the Earth destroyed the universe like a bomb? Same thing, the universe played Simon Says with Earth, following it and dying out when the planet dies..)
even if you count the "universe" pushing, doesn't really matter. it was a cheese feat and is at best unquantifiably controversial, at worst, completely misinterpreted. thor still has far greater versatility. any strength difference would be negligible and thor has beaten other versions of hyperion as well. i'd still take thor for a good majority, especially an out-for-the-kill thor using his powers fully.
Originally posted by leonidas
even if you count the "universe" pushing, doesn't really matter. it was a cheese feat and is at best unquantifiably controversial, at worst, completely misinterpreted. thor still has far greater versatility. any strength difference would be negligible and thor has beaten other versions of hyperion as well. i'd still take thor for a good majority, especially an out-for-the-kill thor using his powers fully.
Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Thor doesn't have his hammer or weather powers, no heat vision as for hype
Originally posted by h1a8
If Thor doesn't have his hammer or weather powers then this is a stomp. IMO Thor is a low herald or high meta without his hammer or weather powers.
Exactly. And it's not even a matter of opinion. Without mjolnir, Thor is basically a souped up asgardian (and asgardians are not impressive at all); probably a high meta.
Originally posted by psycho gundamI said high meta OR low herald. If one is true then my statement is true. In other words, my statement is false ONLY IF both assertions are false.
😂Basically at worst with everything stripped from him Thor is equal to the best Hercules has to offer and you say high meta...