Spiderman, Lizard, Colossus Vs Thor (no Hammer)

Started by TheVaultDweller4 pages

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I dont remember word pair. I thought he was being pretty specific about Thor, since he kinda caused that giant nuclear like explosion It really wouldnt matter as the three of them together couldnt generate a 1/30th of a one megaton.

Still a misatch no matter how low we play Thor and highball the others. One team simply does not have what it takes to put down their opponent without outside help or him simply not fighting back at all.

He mentioned them both. He asks them whether they know where "Thor or Banner are?", and then says that if he misplaced a "couple" of 30 megaton nukes, he'd be in deep shit. So the implication to me was that he regarded them as, like I said, Avengers equivalent of WMDs. So it's not any kind of "low" playing. It's simply referring to what Ross said. Now, granted, the Sokovia buster could well be in the megaton range, based on the destruction it caused, but Ross's comment doesn't mean it was exactly 30 megatons.

On a random note, what has Colossus done to suggest he is as durable as some people suggest? His most impressive durability feat that I can recall is taking some gunfire without damage, which makes him about as durable (by available feats) as Winter Soldier's metal arm. And we saw how well that did against Tony's unibeam.

Ok, rechecked and he and Angel Dust were much closer to Negasonic (when she did the area blast) than I remembered. So a good feat for him, considering he took it much better than Angel Dust did (she was flat out cold for the rest of the film). But still, Iron Man and Thor have taken similar and been fine.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
He mentioned them both. He asks them whether they know where "Thor or Banner are?", and then says that if he misplaced a "couple" of 30 megaton nukes, he'd be in deep shit. So the implication to me was that he regarded them as, like I said, Avengers equivalent of WMDs. So it's not any kind of "low" playing. It's simply referring to what Ross said. Now, granted, the Sokovia buster could well be in the megaton range, based on the destruction it caused, but Ross's comment doesn't mean it was exactly 30 megatons.

On a random note, what has Colossus done to suggest he is as durable as some people suggest? His most impressive durability feat that I can recall is taking some gunfire without damage, which makes him about as durable (by available feats) as Winter Soldier's metal arm. And we saw how well that did against Tony's unibeam.

That wasn't a good feat. IM basically received no damage. Thus it wasn't that damaging at all. It just fell apart. Not even a great explosion. Certainly not a nuclear anything. Aircraft bullets go right through IM.

lol at that lowballing. Iron Man has taken things like tank shells and fire from a jet before (in IM1), and his suit was still perfectly functional. He still saves the one pilot when his chute doesn't want to deploy, before flying off. And Sokovia most certainly did not just fall apart. I am done wasting time addressing you.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
lol at that lowballing. Iron Man has taken things like tank shells and fire from a jet before (in IM1), and his suit was still perfectly functional. He still saves the one pilot when his shoot doesn't want to deploy, before flying off. And Sokovia most certainly did not just fall apart. I am done wasting time addressing you.
Those bullets from the jets went cleanly through him. It exploded a little bit. Wasn't a huge explosion like a real bomb. Happy? It mostly fell apart.

No they did not. If they did he would have been dead. Or is Tony immune to bullets now? At best, they did a bit of superficial damage to the looser panels/bodywork. But that's standard. His armours often take a few superficial scrapes, dents and knicks, while still remaining structurally sound. And you ignore the tank shell completely. Or the fact that he got hit by an actual jet without taking damage, while it sheared a piece of the jet's wing off. Or how he crash landed earlier during that same outing, after getting hit by the tank shell. And, at the end, saved someone before flying off without problems.

And no, because you clearly have no idea how much energy would need to be released to destroy a landmass of that size.

Thor took hits from Hulk who was able to nearly stop a leviathan dead a 200++ foot 100ton++++ flying what 80 miles an hour creature nothing Colossus or Spider-Man or Lizard did could compares to that kind of damage soak not even combined.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
No they did not. If they did he would have been dead. Or is Tony immune to bullets now? At best, they did a bit of superficial damage to the looser panels/bodywork. But that's standard. His armours often take a few superficial scrapes, dents and knicks, while still remaining structurally sound. And you ignore the tank shell completely. Or the fact that he got hit by an actual jet without taking damage, while it sheared a piece of the jet's wing off. Or how he crash landed earlier during that same outing, after getting hit by the tank shell. And, at the end, saved someone before flying off without problems.

And no, because you clearly have no idea how much energy would need to be released to destroy a landmass of that size.

Plus the missile from the F-22 that exploded in very close proximity to him. Again without significant damage to his suit.

h1a8 is full of crap

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Originally posted by Utrigita
Plus the missile from the F-22 that exploded in very close proximity to him. Again without significant damage to his suit.

Or the missile here, at 2:08.

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Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Or the missile here, at 2:08.

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Not to mention the initial blast from the Arch Reactor that fried Stane, and the minigun fire from the Iron Monger blocked with the shield from the Gauntlet. Bah what am I talking about? The Iron Man armor sucks 👆

Originally posted by Utrigita
Not to mention the initial blast from the Arch Reactor that fried Stane, and the minigun fire from the Iron Monger blocked with the shield from the Gauntlet. Bah what am I talking about? The Iron Man armor sucks 👆

Might as well go out fighting in his bathrobe. 😄

Holy shit IM is getting lowballed, and he's not even in the thread lol

Originally posted by golem370
Thor took hits from Hulk who was able to nearly stop a leviathan dead a 200++ foot 100ton++++ flying what 80 miles an hour creature nothing Colossus or Spider-Man or Lizard did could compares to that kind of damage soak not even combined.
Characters don't operate at the same levels in different scenes. There were times Hulk punched things and beings with significantly less force than the leviathan feat. You are taking Hulks greatest feat as the level he was punching at ALL THE TIME.

This is like saying that everyone Gladiator hit was with planet destroying force. Thor can be cut. I don't see Lizard koing him at all though.

Originally posted by Silent Master
h1a8 is full of crap

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How so? Doesn't look like a bomb explosion. It had a little explosion qualities but it appeared to just break into many pieces with some energy discharge. It doesn't appear that even Cap would have died or been seriously damaged if he was there. Iron Man didn't get a scratch. How do you explain that?

LOL, thank you for proving me right.

Originally posted by Silent Master
LOL, thank you for proving me right.

With that post, he basically said that he believes Nicholas Cage with brass knuckles has more destructive power than the Sokovia explosion, considering he thinks that Cage could do significant damage to Cap.

Originally posted by h1a8
Loki has been visibly damaged by a bullet.

Can you post the scene were this happens?
Because I can post a scene where Loki tanks bullets with a smile on his face.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Can you post the scene were this happens?
Because I can post a scene where Loki tanks bullets with a smile on his face.

If it's from the opening scene Loki tanks iirc, multiple shots to the chest, no problem but a bullet seems to grace his cheek later on and gives him a small cut that heals in a instant. It could easily be me misremembering though. Has been quite awhile since I saw it.

Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PngzUEsOZZI Found the clip, at 1:12-1:16, I can't tell if it's a cut or simply the scepter moving into view. (viewing on the phone)

He tanks those bullets no problem.
Like I said before Sif, who is below Thor and closer to Loki tanked a shot gun blast point blank.