Starkiller vs Plageuis (TK Battle)

Originally posted by SunRazer
Galen isn't trumping Plagueis in anything, lmfao.

Plageuis

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Except for obvious tk.

Feat-for-feat, perhaps. But with regard to holistic intent, I'd think it's obvious that Plagueis is considerably more powerful than ANH Vader-tier characters.

Well, this is a tk only battle and while plagueis is probably more powerful than anh characters, that doesn't indicate that he would he able to match starkiller in a tk only battle.

Well, the fact that Plagueis has never exhibited TK feats of that stature doesn't mean that he'd lose, particularly because he never even exhibits telekinesis at full strength in the latter half of the novel. He's obviously a master of telekinesis and much more powerful than Starkiller in general. Everything clicks in place for me.

Plagueis wins if Marek fights for his life.

Marek wins if Marek fights for Juno's life.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Well, the fact that Plagueis has never exhibited TK feats of that stature doesn't mean that he'd lose, particularly because he never even exhibits telekinesis at full strength in the latter half of the novel. He's obviously a master of telekinesis and much more powerful than Starkiller in general. Everything clicks in place for me.

Tbh though I don't think the gap between Vader and Plagueis is all that large personally.

Though I do agree it's logical Plagueis should beat Starkiller via scaling though not by too large a margin given the stances I hold.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Tbh though I don't think the gap between Vader and Plagueis is all that large personally.

I think their raw power in the Force is on even playing fields, tbh. Plagueis mastery, knowledge, and sheer versatility in the Force is a bit above Vader, however.

I see Vader as an (very) high 8, just under the likes of Kun, and Plagueis as low-mid 9. That being said, I think the Gap to ANH Vader and Starkiller is larger.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
I think their raw power in the Force is on even playing fields, tbh. Plagueis mastery, knowledge, and sheer versatility in the Force is a bit above Vader, however.

Yeah, pretty much agree on all fronts there.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
I see Vader as an (very) high 8, just under the likes of Kun, and Plagueis as low-mid 9. That being said, I think the Gap to ANH Vader and Starkiller is larger.

That's where I disagree tbh. At least as a Force user I hold SK's raw powers as slightly better.