SunRazer
Back From The Dead
Originally posted by carthage
He'd pretty handily beat her guard down given he's stronger, has beaten far more skilled individuals than Rand at his peak
Malgus isn't beating down the guard of someone who no-sells hits from enraged Wookiees. Malgus hasn't beaten anyone that's far more skilled than Atton.
and Zallow is per performance not even his best defeat. So yeah again still waiting for you to show any evidence that Traya would perform better than Zallow, or is in anyway comparable
As mentioned Zallow is only his most notable kill, he isn't skillfully better than Leneer.
If the "most prized" quote about Zallow is being disregarded here, he becomes less impressive, too.
If Traya's better than Zallow, then she'd be Aryn-level by this logic, as well. Malgus was also even with Aryn, rather than her better.
But as for what I have to bring forth for Traya, there's the fact that she pummeled Atton in a duel, but also the fact that she was Brianna's blows despite not even appearing to move - the kind of stompage that Sidious showed against the B-team or Yoda against Plo, Saesee and Depa.
Brianna stalemated Atris, who was canonically more skilled than Kavar even before studying teachings of combat and the Force from dozens of Sith holocrons. The fact that Kreia can B-team Brianna is honestly extremely impressive, perhaps moreso than anything Malgus has ever shown.
Sion repeatedly died to no named Jedi over the course of his career
Given that there's no established upper-limit for these Jedi, that's nothing to put down Sion for. We know he's cut down numerous "no-name" Jedi even before he discovered his immortality.
and per accolades Malgus was already roughly on par with him in accomplishments even prior to Deceived.
Which accolades are you referring to? And given how huge the gap between Traya and Sion is, I couldn't care less if Malgus was Sion's equal. He'd have so much ground to cover to match Traya, then.
Baras bested Angral and held off Satele and Darnala at once is better than Sion beating no name Jedi. He would obviously become more powerful but I find that to be a better feat than beating No namers. What evidence is there that Atton could replicate those feats
Baras never bested Angral with a blade, and Baras' short engagements with Satele and Dar'Nala are hardly out of Sion's paygrade. Baras should be Sion's better, but these showings don't reflect that.
She is never listed as having beaten him in her respect thread wtf? It shows her deflecting his blows and that's it, even in the Atton Rand thread it states that the outcome is dependent. Again she has no depicted duels, and only knows various lightsaber forms. Didn't you even take her victory from non canon cut content?
Sel's thread states the Atton vs Sion one is player-dependent, but the Atton winning one is the "correct" one. Traya vs Atton always ends in Traya's win, lol. And yes, I do have her beating him in the thread.
She has practically zero depicted duels, so even considering she's even close to Zallow is tantamount to an special pleading on your part.
And yet again we show a lack of knowledge on the characters being debated.
Zallow fought evenly to Malgus prior to him becoming more powerful in the force, and again Aryn performed better than him and fought off a Bloodlusted version that would mow through Traya. Your second statement is a special pleading asking me to scale her without feats she's demonstrated. Besides Malak's best skill feats are losing to Revan in spite of an amp, and beating Bastila. These alone wouldn't put him above Jinn let alone Zallow or Malgus
Everything here has already been debunked, lol. There's no proof that Malgus would mow through Traya, and if Malak was better than Kreia as of the Mandalorian Wars, then he'd continue to be better than her for life.