Originally posted by MythLordIn the Novel, Rahm has a hell of a harder time against Kota then he does against Paratus.
Definitely Ti. She's far greater than him and Kazdan(who is Rahm's superior) as of TFU, and I don't believe she made a massive improvement from RotS to TFU.
I think either Vader underestimated Marek, or he overestimated Paratus.
Originally posted by MythLord
Definitely Ti. She's far greater than him and Kazdan(who is Rahm's superior) as of TFU, and I don't believe she made a massive improvement from RotS to TFU.
We go by the evidence provided to us. Shaak didn't demonstrate feats that would place her far above Kazdan or Dahm as d RotS and any material before that point. We assume the amount she grew based on the respective feats and accolades of her prime incarnation vs feats and accolades in RotS and any material before that point. Given the disparity, that would suggest she had grown considerably.
Originally posted by MythLord
Just re-read the fight, yeah Marek performed better against Parastus than Kota.
Tbf while the fight did only occur a few weeks after Kazdan was still capable of being a superior Force user just a less effective combatant then Rahm which would validate Vader's statements. Regardless TFU Shaak should be above Rahm and Kazdan based off he down performance ( despite circumstances... ).
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
We go by the evidence provided to us. Shaak didn't demonstrate feats that would place her far above Kazdan or Dahm as d RotS and any material before that point. We assume the amount she grew based on the respective feats and accolades of her prime incarnation vs feats and accolades in RotS and any material before that point. Given the disparity, that would suggest she had grown considerably.
Ah, so the good ol' featz only argument, yes? My, what fun.
True but then she had help from Anakin and Obi Wan at the time.
But then there is the factor that she was tired from just having fought off CIS forces.
Hmmmm.
For the sake of the argument I'm willing to assume that at full capacity she'd be capable of accomplishing something of similar if less magnitude then the water feat.
You would agree that managing to land a push on Galen is superior correct?
Well it is obviously superior to floor Galen and then later stand after one of his more powerful repulses, yes, and the difference is noticeable, but is it enough to place TFU Shaak Ti as substantially ahead of her RotS self as she is ahead of Rahm, is the real question.
BTW, I found a quote that strongly implies Shaak engaged Anakin, which can be used to hype up Marek if you do a bit'o'scaling.
Originally posted by MythLord
Well it is obviously superior to floor Galen and then later stand after one of his more powerful repulses, yes, and the difference is noticeable, but is it enough to place TFU Shaak Ti as substantially ahead of her RotS self as she is ahead of Rahm, is the real question.
BTW, I found a quote that strongly implies Shaak engaged Anakin, which can be used to hype up Marek if you do a bit'o'scaling.
I think substantially yes. Not enormously.
I guess the answer to this debate depend on if you think Vader wasn't entirely accurate in all of his advice to Galen ( which honestly he wasn't ). Tbh though I was just being salty at you for some reason.
While I do believe Rahm to be a superior Force user to Shaak I don't think he nessecarily takes all out as Shaak takes sabers and the gap in Force between them isn't huge. It's a good fight either way and I haven't really made up my mind on it.