Originally posted by UCanShootMyNovaNo lol, pick a context and stick with it. If its referring to Dooku within the contexts of being a Jedi, then it must be referring to Windu within those same contexts. And what has the release date of RotS got to do with anything? Lmao.
Well it's Jedi Dooku because it's talking about Jedi that the Order produced. Assuredly it's not referring to Dooku as a Sith Lord who was stated to have grown far more powerful.It makes no mention of Windu's incarnation and since RotS had come out 5 years before it can be assumed it's referring to his prime in RotS.
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Originally posted by MythLord
Dooku would've been experiencing a considerably larger and more continuous power-growth than Mace, however, seeing as how by AotC as per Insider he's outclassing Mace(along with any other Jedi besides Yoda), and then later gaining even more power by RotS, I don't think Mace would be his rival/superior without a seriously substantial power increase, that negates Dooku's completely... which isn't really the case.This is further backed up by Mace and Dooku have basically been confirmed as having a similar aptitude and talent, but Dooku had more time to hone it and with more resources, hence he would've improved more.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
No lol, pick a context and stick with it. If its referring to Dooku within the contexts of being a Jedi, then it must be referring to Windu within those same contexts. And what has the release date of RotS got to do with anything? Lmao.
IIRC Mace was still a Jedi in RotS...
Originally posted by Beniboybling
At which point Dooku as not, right. I mean the context in which they were both Jedi.
Yoda taught many pupils throughout his years, including Dooku, who became one of the finest sword masters the Order EVER produced - eclipsed ONLY by Mace Windu and Yoda himself.
It doesn't seem to be limiting the accolade to Dooku's time in the temple.
I think what Syndicate is getting at would be something along the lines of: "A was one of the most powerful Jedi ever, eclipsed only by B" but B lives in another era than A.
Like only beings like Mace and Yoda, in their primes, eclipsed Jedi Dooku. mmm
But nah, it's probably just Jedi!Dooku and pre-Haruun Kal Mace, but my point about their respective power-growths still stand.
Windu's position in the new Canon is still uncertain. It's a great pitty, that SoD wasn't a part of TCW. His duel with Maul on screen could be very helpful.
Dooku on the other hand, is somehow supported by SoD itself. Sidious states, that Talzin has not Dooku's skills short before he stomps her. Mace on the other hand, was unable to do that. I also feel, that Sidious had far greater advantage over Maul then Mace.
Strongest argument for Mace always was - in my opinion - the fact, that lucas said, that you have to be either Mace or Yoda to compete with Sidious. But Lucas also said, that Vader and Kenobi were just a shadows of their former selfs, which should put Vader below most of PT's combatants. And there are those Gillard's levels. But if we are going to accept them, we should also accept, that Kenobi was "aggressive" type of duelist, which would ruin that concept of him as The Master of Soresu.
In that new canon, I would say that only one thing is sure: Sidious and Yoda are far above the rest. Mace, Dooku, Anakin, Vader and Talzin are inferior at some points.
Vader for example, has a lot of hype, but his showings against other Force users are not that impressive.
Originally posted by McP
But if we are going to accept them, we should also accept, that Kenobi was "aggressive" type of duelist, which would ruin that concept of him as The Master of Soresu.
He told, that if anything would be the downfall of Kenobi, it would be his aggression. Pretty legitimate considering his true mastery resided in Soresu and going on the offensive would be terrible for him.