Revan vs Ulic Qel-Droma (Sabers only)

Started by DarthAnt664 pages

Ah, nice, so you concede the point.

You mask it by just shifting to your other point.

But that point isn't actually a point, just you complaining,

So feel free to try to raise a new one. 😂

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Yeah, you basically said that already three times.

We laughed at you all three times.

Care to say it a fourth?

And you failed to come up with a response all those times. 😛

Lmao. Referring to yourself as a hivemind again I see. 😉

Care to actually post a counter for why we should accept your sh!tty quotes. 🙂

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Ah, nice, so you concede the point.

You mask it by just shifting to your other point.

But that point isn't actually a point, just you complaining,

So feel free to try to raise a new one. 😂

?

What point am I apparently shifting to in your deluded mind?

The point is, if a quote is contradicted by showings then it's obviously not usable.

Until you address the one I'm bringing up I don't feel the need to.

No, I need not justify why an officially licensed, canon source should be considered an officially licensed, canon source.

Sasukedc has already hammered into you about this, I believe.

By denying the validity of the quote for no reason other than where you personally rank the characters, you concede the point by default.

You're stating there is a direct contradiction when the only contradiction is fan-constructed and made.

Revan wins

Pathetic debating from Ant's opponents
Pathetic from Ant to even respond to this

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
No, I need not justify why an officially licensed, canon source should be considered an officially licensed, canon source.

Sasukedc has already hammered into you about this, I believe.

By denying the validity of the quote for no reason other than where you personally rank the characters, you concede the point by default.

You're stating there is a direct contradiction when the only contradiction is fan-constructed and made.

So then you believe Starkiller oneshotted an ISD with force energy since the TFUIICG is also an "officially licensed canon source?" 😛 Just want to hear you admit it.

I deny the quote on the basis that it contradicts shown events in areas of more consistent canon. I.E. Obi Wan is not on Dooku's tier.

Except it's not and that's what I'm trying to point out to you.

Feel free to provide the quote.

Ah, you still don't get it. Allow me to explain (for the last time):

A legitimate contradiction is only when one work explicitly states X, but then another work (or sometimes even the same) declares Y in the same context.

For example, Darth Bandon being proclaimed the most powerful Sith ever is contradicted by his inferiority to Revan, who is inferior to Vitiate, who is inferior to Palpatine, the proclaimed most powerful Sith Lord.

However, if Darth Bandon is proclaimed more powerful than, say, an unnamed planet-consuming entity, then is no actual contradiction. Nothing demands the entity to be more powerful than Darth Bandon besides fan-based assessments, which aren't actual arguments. Thus, Darth Bandon would factually be greater than the planet-consuming entity, and all characters would have to be scaled up appropriately.

Here: http://www.ign.com/wikis/star-wars-the-force-unleashed-ii/Salvation%3A_The_Battle_for_the_Salvation_3

And you're saying you'd believe Bandon to be more powerful then said planet consuming entity if a quote like that existed?

And all characters scaled up appropriately, of course.

Otherwise, you're way of thinking is inherently biased because it's based on fan-based assessments (ex. you), not legitimate facts.

*sigh

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
And all characters scaled up appropriately, of course.

Otherwise, you're way of thinking is inherently biased because it's based on fan-based assessments (ex. you), not legitimate facts.

I can't accept that. If it goes against the reasonable knowledge on the character we possess ( even if it doesn't outright contradict it ) I can't accept it as valid.

Well, now that I understand your basis I can respect it if not agree with it. Carry on.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Here: http://www.ign.com/wikis/star-wars-the-force-unleashed-ii/Salvation%3A_The_Battle_for_the_Salvation_3

That's the PG, not the CG.

Anyway, quote me on what in particular you're referring to.

The confirmation that SK powered the cannon that blew apart the ISD in the Salvation missions.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I can't accept that. If it goes against the reasonable knowledge on the character we possess ( even if it doesn't outright contradict it ) I can't accept it as valid.

Well, now that I understand your basis I can respect it if not agree with it. Carry on.

Well then you're wrong, and I can't accept your stances in general as valid since they neglect facts in preference of favoritism.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
The confirmation that SK powered the cannon that blew apart the ISD in the Salvation missions.

Who denied that?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Well then you're wrong, and I can't accept your stances in general as valid since they neglect facts in preference of favoritism.

*Shrug* Then you don't have to.

My stances are based on rationality and takes into account the fact that their can be errors in a canon system as large as the Star Wars EU. I attempt to not let favoritism tint my view of characters. Despite my bold proclamations I don't think Galen is a peer of Sidious's because I know that that's not what the writers intended. I may defend his performance against Sidious and point out the flaws in people's arguments detracting from it but I've only ever claimed he's above Vader, made my arguments and let people decide where to place him from there.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Who denied that?

Didn't say you denied it. I guess I just assumed you would though.

*Shrug*

Guess I shouldn't have assumed.

Well this was fun to read, gonna say Revan wins though.

Originally posted by darthbane77
Well this was fun to read, gonna say Revan wins though.

I admire your boldness Ant. Revan's Saber skill will soon be the wank trend on KMC