Galen Marek vs Darth Wyyrlok III

Started by UCanShootMyNova3 pages

Yeah.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
@Azronger: Comparable showings? How do you mean? He shot lightning at Krayt's armor. The armor itself wasn't damaged in any way based off the scans you posted.

Yes, it was. Look closely at it.

I'd say powering the hyperdrive of a downed freighter too large for Galen to jump over or make his way around without detouring for hours is sufficiently superior to making Krayt's armor glow.

Thats not a feat of power. You could power up a hyperdrive with literally anything that conducts electricity.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
How about oneshotting an AT-AT with lightning?

Quote?

Or one-shotting a Rancor with lightning.

When rancors can take light hits from a lightsaber blade I'll consider this comparable.

Or one-shotting the support of an orbital superstructure with lightning.

What is the durability of the structure?

Or powering an ore cannon that one shotted an ISD.

Again, powering up machines are not great showings.

I'm seeing nothing here that would give Wyyrlok trouble. Marek, however, is quite literally toast, with his relatively lackluster Tutaminis.

Marek's TK is superior to Krayt's. Not only that but Krayt didn't even outright attempt to break through Wyr's shields. He simply threw rubble at him which Wyr shielded himself from.

Throwing rubble at someone means you're attempting to break their shields, lol. And maybe the fact that he did decide to throw rubble at Wyyrlok instead of blunt TK attacks is an indication that Krayt knows that would not work, unlike basically every other adversary who Krayt telekinetically influenced as a first response:

And Marek superior to Krayt in TK? Maybe in a contest of who can lift the biggest pile of shit after 5 mins of concentration, but I've not seen anything impressive from him combat-wise.

Bane is far inferior as a Force user to Marek.

Substantiate this claim. As far as willpower feats go, Bane is laughably above Marek.

Andeddu was crushed by Bane after he became aware of him.

What? Bane was aware of Andeddu even before the fight started. Bane knew exactly what he was getting into and still got almost dominated. Only after a long struggle did he begin to overpower Andeddu, and even that was gradual.

Wyyrlok was caught off-guard, then shrugged off the illusion instantly, and stomped Andeddu.

Marek has overcome visions similar to the ones created by the Dark Cave on Dagobah

If they really are similar to the ones in the Dagobah Cave, then that's not even a willpower feat to begin with, lmao.

But could you still post the showing?

and has shown he is familiar with mental attacks when he prepared to defend himself from what he thought was an attempted mental attack by Kota.

Simply being familiar with them doesn't mean you're gonna resist them, lol.

By your own word, Marek's best TP feat is controlling some officers. Pathetic.

I'm looking at it. I don't see what you're referring to.

... How is generating that energy not a feat of power?

Here, I'll provide the quote for Zoltan.

"A stream of Sith lightning put the AT-AT itself out of action." - The Force Unleashed.

The durability of the structure in question.

"When he reached the base of the skyhook, he was momentarily given pause. How to bring about the ruin of six constructs several stories high? Their super-strong materials were designed to handle the stresses of holding the massive station directly above, against all the laws of physics. How would he overcome their resistance?" - The Force Unleashed.

You don't seem to realize that to power up machines it's necessary to generate the energy to power them and their function.

His lack lackluster tutaminis? What? He was absorbing and diminishing Sidious's lightning. Wyr doesn't compare.

"Without hesitation, he stepped between Kota and the Emperor, taking the full brunt of the Sith lightning into his own body." - The Force Unleashed.

It means you're trying to catch them off guard. Telekinetically propelled objects will pass right through a passive force barrier which is why an active force barrier like the one Wyr raised is necessary to stop them.

Case in point.

"Before Starkiller could reach out for where his lightsaber lay fallen on the ground, the stone conference table lifted into the air and hurled itself at him. Crashing through three of the pillars and catching him squarely in the chest, it drove him out into the snow." - The Force Unleashed.

And then a few days later.

"His Master seized on his momentary weakness and hurled missiles at him from all sides, hoping to keep him off his guard. For a moment, it worked. Then the apprentice straightened and, with a sweep of his left arm, blew the missiles away." - The Force Unleashed.

You can be superior to an opponent and not being able to instantly break their force defenses. This is the case with Krayt and Wyr. Or perhaps he simply wanted to teach Wyr a lesson and demonstrate his superiority in all aspects before highlighting his weakness as a lightsaber combatant and cutting him down.

What do you mean? Marek has thrown back hundreds of droids, collapsed docks and cleared entire platforms with gestures.

Why? Based on their respective showings Galen is far more powerful and therefore has superior mental defenses as per TTR where it's shown mental resistance is attributed to Force power.

Just checked the novel, fair enough. It's been a while since I've read the DBT.

It's too long to post as it covers like half a chapter.

Here's a link to a site that has the book.

http://www.hungry-ewok.ru/sw/all_books.htm

The Kashyyyk missions occurs a little more then halfway through the novel.

We don't just go by feats, we go by logic as well. And logically given Galen's power he should have superior mental defenses to any of the people you've mentioned thus far.

This is a hard one.

No, not really.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
No, not really.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm voting for Galen, and all that shit about Galen having no TP feats is stupid.

Half the game, you're fighting of visions of your past, and your future, in your head.

The last part of the Jedi Temple mission too!

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I forgot what kind of a pain in the ass you are to debate given that you don't use the "QUOTE" button.

I'll bold the sections I'm addressing if you'd like.

Originally posted by Azronger
I forgot what kind of a pain in the ass you are to debate given that you don't use the "QUOTE" button.
Are you going to counter his argument, Azzy?

Yeah, when I get around to it.

Originally posted by Azronger
Yeah, when I get around to it.
Will do.

This is actually a pretty cool argument to watch.

Originally posted by Azronger
Yeah, when I get around to it.

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Marek.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I'll bold the sections I'm addressing if you'd like.

No... QUOTE IT! Be an actually coherent human being.

Nah. 🙂