Captain America vs. Ozymandias

Started by Silent Master3 pages
Originally posted by h1a8
Ozy very easily. Cap won't even be able to touch him.

LOL!!!!

Originally posted by Silent Master
LOL!!!!
Anyone who can see bullets in slow motion would see Cap several times slower.

Originally posted by h1a8
Anyone who can see bullets in slow motion would see Cap several times slower.

He didn't see the bullet in slow motion. It was an anticipation feat. A calculated feat. You know Ozy is smart. He knew what was going to happen and calculated accordingly to accomplish the feat.
Its not something he would be able t do continuous. Especially in a fight because we have seen how slow he fights.
And we never saw him moving fast enough in a fight to say he can move that way at will without proper anticipation and calculation.

Originally posted by h1a8
Anyone who can see bullets in slow motion would see Cap several times slower.

Where was it stated or shown that he saw the bullet in slow motion?

Originally posted by Inhuman
He didn't see the bullet in slow motion. It was an anticipation feat. A calculated feat. You know Ozy is smart. He knew what was going to happen and calculated accordingly to accomplish the feat.
Its not something he would be able t do continuous. Especially in a fight because we have seen how slow he fights.

Do you know he move his hands AFTER the bullet was fired?
He reacted.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Where was it stated or shown that he saw the bullet in slow motion?
He reacted and caught the bullet after it was fired. That means his brain was operating far faster than a human's. When synapses fire faster in the brain then objects appear slower than before.

It appeared much slower to him than to a human. Thus it appeared in slow motion.

Originally posted by h1a8
Do you know he move his hands AFTER the bullet was fired?
He reacted.

Prove that Ozy saw the bullet in slow motion.

Originally posted by h1a8
Do you know he move his hands AFTER the bullet was fired?
He reacted.

No it was a calculated feat. You can see it in his face before the bullet fired.
And afterwards he was on the ground.
There is no indication from this clip that he would be able to continuously move at that speed. He would need a few seconds to recover. As shown on the clip.

WS also has feats similar to this but in actual combat. With people firing faster traveling bullets at him. Blocking the bullets with his arm and also jumping out the way of them.
So their reaction are not miles apart.

YouTube video

Also so far I'm posting all the evidence. You haven't posted anything to prove your points. I'm also doing your work for you.
Terrible type of debating tbh.

Originally posted by Inhuman
No it was a calculated feat. You can see it in his face before the bullet fired.
And afterwards he was on the ground.
There is no indication from this clip that he would be able to continuously move at that speed. He would need a few seconds to recover. As shown on the clip.

WS also has feats similar to this but in actual combat. With people firing faster traveling bullets at him. Blocking the bullets with his arm and also jumping out the way of them.
So their reaction are not miles apart.

YouTube video

Also so far I'm posting all the evidence. You haven't posted anything to prove your points. I'm also doing your work for you.
Terrible type of debating tbh.

You can't know if or when the bullet will be fired. He doesn't have precog. You are just making stuff up.
Also there is evidence to support he was acting the entire time. Pretending to be shot. So he wasn't out because he used that level of speed.

H1 doesn't debate.

Is h1 aware that Ozy could see the gun and thus would know where it was pointed and when the trigger was pulled?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Is h1 aware that Ozy could see the gun and thus would know where it was pointed and when the trigger was pulled?

Its not like Ozy isn't super smart and calculating where the bullet will be traveling or when it would be fired would be something he couldn't do. I mean that's his thing right? being super smart.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Its not like Ozy isn't super smart and calculating where the bullet will be traveling or when it would be fired would be something he couldn't do. I mean that's his thing right? being super smart.
Being smart doesn't give precog. It's impossible to know when the bullet will be fired (or if at all). You are just making stuff up. I'm pretty sure the writer wanted to display his incredible speed and reflexes.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Is h1 aware that Ozy could see the gun and thus would know where it was pointed and when the trigger was pulled?
He didn't know when the trigger would be pulled (or if). He simply reacted and moved AFTER the bullet entered the air.

You guys are now trolling by making stuff up.

Originally posted by h1a8
Being smart doesn't give precog. It's impossible to know when the bullet will be fired (or if at all). You are just making stuff up. I'm pretty sure the writer wanted to display his incredible speed and reflexes.

So your argument is that Ozy can't see someone pulling a trigger from a few feet away?

Originally posted by Silent Master
So your argument is that Ozy can't see someone pulling a trigger from a few feet away?

I'm not sure if he can or can't. Pulling a trigger is a very subtle motion that's barely noticeable.

But since this is a work of fiction and none of this stuff actually occurred then the only things that happened are things that occurred in the writer's mind. Was the writer thinking that Ozy was looking at the trigger being pulled? Hell no. Otherwise Ozy would have gotten his hand up right before the trigger was pulled. Remember, his hand moved AFTER the bullet was in the air.

Are you aware of what your new stance on Ozy's visual abilities means for your claims that he can see a bullet in slow motion?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Are you aware of what your new stance on Ozy's visual abilities means for your claims that he can see a bullet in slow motion?

To be able to see a bullet fly through the air means that ones brain impulses are firing at much greater speeds than a human's. This makes the person see things slower than what a human sees them at.

When I first played baseball. I couldn't really see a 60mph fastball in little league. It seemed it was in the air for a nanosecond. After much training and practice, 95 mph fastballs in college now appeared to be moving in slow motion. I hit several home runs off flat ass fastballs from a pitcher who have topped out at 97mph.

That didn't answer my question. so I'll ask again. Are you aware of what your new stance on Ozy's visual abilities means for your claims that he can see a bullet in slow motion?

Originally posted by Silent Master
That didn't answer my question. so I'll ask again. Are you aware of what your new stance on Ozy's visual abilities means for your claims that he can see a bullet in slow motion?

No