Originally posted by MythLord
Karness Muur ahead of prime Vader? Also why?
Well to be fair maybe not the Muur presented here in the OP but living Muur based off his spirit performance against Vong Krayt and his ability to potentially defeat Sidious with the aid of Early Empire era Vader and Vader not being willing to trade his current Sith master for Muur despite the possibility of freeing himself from Muur later on once he had grown in power.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Vader can't kill and revive Cade Skywalker with a touch, lol.Besides, even Vong Krayt was far above the likes of Wyyrlok, who in turn, was well above those minion Sith that toppled the huge satellite dish.
Krayt was above any adept telekinetically and in the realm of Force lightning. IIRC it was two adepts that accomplished the feat you're referring to.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Vader can't kill and revive Cade Skywalker with a touch, lol.Besides, even Vong Krayt was far above the likes of Wyyrlok, who in turn, was well above those minion Sith that toppled the huge satellite dish.
If he knows Dark Transfer he could. Applying haxx powers to general raw power isn't the smartest thing to do, unless you think Nihilus is > Sidious because Sidious cannot kill an entire planet with a burp.
And for someone far above Wyyrlok, he seems to have his hands full with him. And didn't Wredd do that, y'know, a substantial amount of time after Krayt and Wyyrlok kicked the bucket, and with aid?
Originally posted by SunRazer
I said minions. Minions can still be adepts, lol. And Wyyrlok's still well above them, and Krayt >>> Wyyrlok.
"Minions can still be adepts, lol."
Did I say anything to the contrary?
Well. We certainly know Krayt's above them individually. The question of if he's above them together is an interesting one.
Originally posted by MythLord
If he knows Dark Transfer he could. Applying haxx powers to general raw power isn't the smartest thing to do, unless you think Nihilus is > Sidious because Sidious cannot kill an entire planet with a burp.And for someone far above Wyyrlok, he seems to have his hands full with him. And didn't Wredd do that, y'know, a substantial amount of time after Krayt and Wyyrlok kicked the bucket, and with aid?
Oh this was post Krayt's death?
Originally posted by MythLord
If he knows Dark Transfer he could. Applying haxx powers to general raw power isn't the smartest thing to do, unless you think Nihilus is > Sidious because Sidious cannot kill an entire planet with a burp.
I obviously mean Vader can't do it even with Dark Transfer. Cade's kind of Maul-tier, lol.
And for someone far above Wyyrlok, he seems to have his hands full with him.
He really didn't. He turned aside Wyyrlok's powers easily, gained the upper hand in the duel easily, and was only given pause when Wyyrlok used Memory Walk.
And didn't Wredd do that, y'know, a substantial amount of time after Krayt and Wyyrlok kicked the bucket, and with aid?
Substantial time? They died in 138 ABY, the second volume takes place between 138 - 140 ABY. Not to mention that Nihl was the head of the Order by that time, and he's not as powerful as Wyyrlok either.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
"Minions can still be adepts, lol."Did I say anything to the contrary?
Yeah, you did. Either that, or you were adding in some irrelevant commentary.
Well. We certainly know Krayt's above them individually. The question of if he's above them together is an interesting one.
Wredd etc. isn't particularly high up the Sith hierarchy. I doubt they seriously approached Wyyrlok, let alone Krayt.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Yeah, you did. Either that, or you were adding in some irrelevant commentary.Wredd etc. isn't particularly high up the Sith hierarchy. I doubt they seriously approached Wyyrlok, let alone Krayt.
I think I just called them adepts instead of minions, lmao. Same thing different name. No need to get hostile about it.
Kanan wasn't particularly high up on the Jedi hierarchy. It didn't stop him and Ezra from accomplishing a high tier feat.
Also apparently Wredd accomplished this feat post Krayt's death meaning the quote doesn't apply.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I think I just called them adepts instead of minions, lmao. Same thing different name. No need to get hostile about it.
How was that hostile? Thicker skin please.
Kanan wasn't particularly high up on the Jedi hierarchy. It didn't stop him and Ezra from accomplishing a high tier feat.
So? That's the point. Characters even higher than such characters would naturally be more powerful.
Also apparently Wredd accomplished this feat post Krayt's death meaning the quote doesn't apply.
He did it within a year of Krayt's death, lol. If I can see proof of a substantial growth in power, I'll scale it down. But seeing as Nihl, who was weaker than Wyyrlok, became the Sith leader after Krayt's death, and to my understanding, Wredd wasn't anywhere near Nihl, I'm finding it hard to believe that Wredd compares to Wyyrlok and especially to Krayt.
Originally posted by SunRazer
How was that hostile? Thicker skin please.So? That's the point. Characters even higher than such characters would naturally be more powerful.
He did it within a year of Krayt's death, lol. If I can see proof of a substantial growth in power, I'll scale it down. But seeing as Nihl, who was weaker than Wyyrlok, became the Sith leader after Krayt's death, and to my understanding, Wredd wasn't anywhere near Nihl, I'm finding it hard to believe that Wredd compares to Wyyrlok and especially to Krayt.
You just seem to be making an issue out of something that's not there.
But how much more powerful is the question.
Depends on Nihl and Wredd's respective power growth tbh. Just to confirm though was the quote regarding Krayt's superiority before or after his Vong implants.