Marka Ragnos vs Darth Vader

Started by UCanShootMyNova4 pages

Either way tbh.

I'll take the most powerful sith lord at the apex of sith knowledge and power over someone who really just has the raw power to compensate for his lack of variety as far as force techniques go.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
I'll take the most powerful sith lord at the apex of sith knowledge and power over someone who really just has the raw power to compensate for his lack of variety as far as force techniques go.

Apex of Sith Knowlege? That would be the Late Banites.(And Vitate) And power? Again, Banites, and Vitates Empire impressed me more as well.
That argument is ridicolous, variety normally isn't a factor in a battle. Vader has shown more Force techniques as Ragnos, btw.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Apex of Sith Knowlege? That would be the Late Banites.(And Vitate) And power? Again, Banites, and Vitates Empire impressed me more as well.
That argument is ridicolous, variety normally isn't a factor in a battle. Vader has shown more Force techniques as Ragnos, btw.

Apex of Sith knowledge. Hence the Golden Age of the Sith. Late Banites? LOL. The late Banites distributed the dark side between two individuals instead of diluting it and did include more powerful individuals as far as quality over quantity is concerned, but they didn't have nearly as much information to go on as the Golden Age. I've already made this argument in the other subforum when the discussion was focused on whether newer or older characters had more knowledge.

As far as what Vader's shown, he's shown the basic force techniques. The argument isn't ridiculous because for most of the cases in the mythos, more knowledge has equated to more power.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Apex of Sith knowledge. Hence the Golden Age of the Sith. Late Banites? LOL. The late Banites distributed the dark side between two individuals instead of diluting it and did include more powerful individuals as far as quality over quantity is concerned, but they didn't have nearly as much information to go on as the Golden Age. I've already made this argument in the other subforum when the discussion was focused on whether newer or older characters had more knowledge.

As far as what Vader's shown, he's shown the basic force techniques. The argument isn't ridiculous because for [b]most of the cases in the mythos, more knowledge has equated to more power. [/B]


Why should it be named The Golden age, because of Knowledge? Late Banites had nearly all Sith Holocrons and gained much more knowledge in nearly 1000 years.
What has Ragnos shown, besides the typical force techniques?

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Why should it be named The Golden age, because of Knowledge? Late Banites had nearly all Sith Holocrons and gained much more knowledge in nearly 1000 years.
What has Ragnos shown, besides the typical force techniques?

Nearly all the holocrons? There were no "all the holocrons" for them to have. They had whatever wasn't destroyed over the thousands of years. Most of the knowledge was destroyed after the Great Hyperspace War. So no, they couldn't have more knowledge if they had barely a fraction of the knowledge contained during the Golden Age.

As far as force techniques for Ragnos, we haven't seen him alive yet. But I'll grant him a victory when he's the most powerful sith during the most powerful time period of the sith.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
You're right, as usual thanks for helping the opposition make their arguments stronger 👆

Not sure how that makes your argument stronger. It completely negates the idea that Marka can "crush" Naga Sadow, but you did always have trouble reading. 👆

Originally posted by MythLord
Not sure how that makes your argument stronger. It completely negates the idea that Marka can "crush" Naga Sadow, but you did always have trouble reading. 👆
for someone who always helps the opposition, its amusing you criticize someone's reading 😂

I have no idea how I helped the opposition in this case; you're kinda just spamming the same thing over again without any reasoning besides delusional/wishful thinking.

Your concession is accepted. 👆

Originally posted by MythLord
While his powers were amplified "a thousand fold", i.e. a thousand times more powerful than he actually is.

Shit son, do you have the actual quote for that?

Originally posted by MythLord
I have no idea how I helped the opposition in this case; you're kinda just spamming the same thing over again without any reasoning besides delusional/wishful thinking.

Your concession is accepted. 👆

Ah thats when i know i won this argument, the moment you use "concession" and "accepted" in the same sentence. Hold your head up, you'll win one eventually 😂

So you take the concession? Good, good.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Shit son, do you have the actual quote for that?

I was in Book of the Sith. I'll PM it to ya, if I find it. It is hyperbole, probably.

Originally posted by MythLord
[B]So you take the concession? Good, good.

like i said, that was easy. Debates with you usually are.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
like i said, that was easy. Debates with you usually are.

You usually lose these debates, tbh. Lol.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
You usually lose these debates, tbh. Lol.

Not at all. You and myth are usually in the same boat so I can understand where you are coming from.

Tbh, our debates are usually Jman+You against Myth and me. So, yeah...

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Tbh, our debates are usually Jman+You against Myth and me. So, yeah...
It's slightly more people than that. You two usually find yourselves on the losing end but instead of conceding, you'll continue to post until everyone else gets tired, then declare victory. It's called the quan method of debating.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
like i said, that was easy. Debates with you usually are.

Yup. I mean, it's just me, everyone's friend. It is rather easy to concede to me.

Which more?
Ziggy at some point, Neph in the Valk debate and Azronger at the beginning. I probably miss some, tho.
I am interested what Nova, Ant and co, say to our debates.

Nova thinks Ziggy and WS are just hilarious distractions, Ant isn't fond of either, if I recall correctly(definitely not Ziggs), Azronger generally agrees with us, Neph doesn't but he plays Devil's Advocate for TOR.

It's Jman, Ziggy and Beefy... two scrubs and a troll. mmm