Colossus (Deadpool) vs Captain America

Started by juggernaut745 pages

Colossus showed he can deliver a quick punch in that video. Cry all you want but it's there.

Quick for his size, yes. But that is all.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Colossus showed he can deliver a quick punch in that video. Cry all you want but it's there.

Err no. He showed that he's not as lumbering as he looks but no proper fighter in the world would ever call that a quick punch.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Err no. He showed that he's not as lumbering as he looks but no proper fighter in the world would ever call that a quick punch.
Then you are blind as hell. A couple of those punches had no animation. They were instant. Faster than any human punch I ever saw. Faster than any punch Cap has ever did in all 5 movies.

Originally posted by h1a8
Then you are blind as hell. A couple of those punches had no animation. They were instant. Faster than any human punch I ever saw. Faster than any punch Cap has ever did in all 5 movies.

Jeeze man. What are you smoking? There's a reason why no one else here agrees with you.

That clip proved that Colossus doesn't hit slow. You should just stick with that. Claiming he somehow punches superhumanly fast just makes you look silly.

Originally posted by h1a8
Then you are blind as hell. A couple of those punches had no animation. They were instant. Faster than any human punch I ever saw. Faster than any punch Cap has ever did in all 5 movies.

You need glasses.

Originally posted by h1a8
Then you are blind as hell. A couple of those punches had no animation. They were instant. Faster than any human punch I ever saw. Faster than any punch Cap has ever did in all 5 movies.
I agree. Thanks for showing that clip.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I agree. Thanks for showing that clip.

You also need glasses.

Colossus should win eventually. However, Cap would make him work for it, he is just too fast for him.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Jeeze man. What are you smoking? There's a reason why no one else here agrees with you.

That clip proved that Colossus doesn't hit slow. You should just stick with that. Claiming he somehow punches superhumanly fast just makes you look silly.

Ok 2 things. Either you are going by visual speed as true speed or implied speed.

1. If visual speed then Colossus had a couple of punches that were faster than ANY single punch Cap showed in all 5 movies. If you disagree then gladly post a clip showing Cap punching faster. But he had a lot of slow ones too.

2. If implied speed then Colossus launched her with a large velocity since she flew over 100ft away very quickly. That means he punched faster than what was visually shown.

Originally posted by apex_pretador
Colossus should win eventually. However, Cap would make him work for it, he is just too fast for him.
Colossus could just grab Cap while Cap lands an ineffective attack.

Originally posted by h1a8
Ok 2 things. Either you are going by visual speed as true speed or implied speed.

1. If visual speed then Colossus had a couple of punches that were faster than ANY single punch Cap showed in all 5 movies. If you disagree then gladly post a clip showing Cap punching faster. But he had a lot of slow ones too.

2. If implied speed then Colossus launched her with a large velocity since she flew over 100ft away very quickly. That means he punched faster than what was visually shown.

1. It only looks fast because of cut scenes. But since you can easily follow the punch then it's not really that fast.

2. Getting launched from that punch has more to do with strength and mass of punch and is not proof of velocity.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Who cares how fast he punches... he'll stomp CA pretty easily

Colossus will win, but he won't be stomping Cap easily. Not when Cap has such good feats against Ultron.

I like how h1 is still arguing that we should ignore what the clip actually shows and instead just take his word for it.

Originally posted by FrothByte
1. It only looks fast because of cut scenes. But since you can easily follow the punch then it's not really that fast.

2. Getting launched from that punch has more to do with strength and mass of punch and is not proof of velocity.

In 1 scene there was no cut scene. He snapped out a punch fast as lightning. Like a professional light weight boxer jab.

Strength generates speed. A punch is a collision problem. In collisions, only momentum is conserved. So only mass and velocity matters (not strength). Strength is used to generate final velocity. She has more mass than Colossus arm. Thus Colossus arm had to be moving FASTER than the speed she was launched at.

Originally posted by h1a8
In 1 scene there was no cut scene. He snapped out a punch fast as lightning. Like a professional light weight boxer jab.

Strength generates speed. A punch is a collision problem. In collisions, only momentum is conserved. So only mass and velocity matters (not strength). Strength is used to generate final velocity. She has more mass than Colossus arm. Thus Colossus arm had to be moving FASTER than the speed she was launched at.

If a bull were to start pushing at you very very slowly, are you saying it won't be able to move you just because it doesn't have the necessary velocity?

Originally posted by FrothByte
If a bull were to start pushing at you very very slowly, are you saying it won't be able to move you just because it doesn't have the necessary velocity?
Yes I'll move. I won't be launched with a HIGHER velocity than what he pushes me with. If he pushed me at 10mph then I would be launched at 10mph or SLOWER.

Originally posted by h1a8
Yes I'll move. I won't be launched with a HIGHER velocity than what he pushes me with. If he pushed me at 10mph then I would be launched at 10mph or SLOWER.

Being moved fast or slow wasn't my point. I was merely pointing out that strength does play a factor in moving someone. IE, a punch.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Being moved fast or slow wasn't my point. I was merely pointing out that strength does play a factor in moving someone. IE, a punch.
I agreed but clarified. Strength contributes mostly to generating the speed before contact.