End of Act II HoT vs Satele Shan

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End of Act II HoT vs Satele Shan

1. Sabers

2. Force

3. All-Out

Wasn't the HoT already considered the most powerful Jedi alive by the end of Act II?

Originally posted by darthbane77
Wasn't the HoT already considered the most powerful Jedi alive by the end of Act II?
Idk, I haven't gotten that far into the story yet.

Yeah HOT

The HoT was considered the most powerful Jedi alive by the end of the prologue. Satele confirms it at the end of Act I.

Satele

Originally posted by Nephthys
The HoT was considered the most powerful Jedi alive by the end of the prologue. Satele confirms it at the end of Act I.

Probably in the same context as Anakin being the most powerful Jedi as of RotS.

Hardly. The meaning of the quotes are clear.

Just like Anakin's supremacy quotes in RotS? Raw power =/= actualized power.

It doesn't just say power, its stuff like "strongest", "greatest", "without equal" and "greatest warrior".

All of which Anakin has too, lol. Would you like me to show you the quotes?

Originally posted by SunRazer
All of which Anakin has too, lol. Would you like me to show you the quotes?
So, Satele, the strongest Jedi alive, proclaims that the HoT is now the strongest Jedi alive as of Act I?

I'm pretty sure her word, considering her OWN power, means something.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It doesn't just say power, its stuff like "strongest", "greatest", "without equal" and "greatest warrior".

LOL Anakin literally has every single one of those.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
LOL Anakin literally has every single one of those.
Is it referring to his power at the time, or what he could be?

As I recall Anakin's stuff is clearly about potential or its merely about him out of his generation. Also Yoda exists as a clear contradiction. That isn't the case for the Hero, and several of his quotes come from his competition. It can hardly be argued that Satele is greater than them when she herself admits inferiority or when people suggest the Hero is the best right in front of her.

Nothing about the quotes suggest they're about potential in the slightest. Its a useless line of thought.

Regardless, suggesting that Satele is stronger than Act II Hero is retarded.

Originally posted by Nephthys
As I recall Anakin's stuff is clearly about potential or its merely about him out of his generation. Also Yoda exists as a clear contradiction. That isn't the case for the Hero, and several of his quotes come from his competition. It can hardly be argued that Satele is greater than them when she herself admits inferiority or when people suggest the Hero is the best right in front of her.

Nothing about the quotes suggest they're about potential in the slightest. Its a useless line of thought.

Regardless, suggesting that Satele is stronger than Act II Hero is retarded.

Tbh it isn't retarded if we look at only feats.

All accolades by Act II considered though, Hero wins.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It doesn't just say power, its stuff like "strongest", "greatest", "without equal" and [color=blue]"greatest warrior".[/color]

The most powerful Jedi of his generation. Perhaps of any generation. The fastest. The strongest. An unbeatable pilot. An unstoppable warrior. On the ground, in the air or sea or space, there is no one even close. He has not just power, not just skill, but dash: that rare, invaluable combination of boldness and grace. He is the best there is at what he does. The best there has ever been. And he knows it.

mmm

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The most powerful Jedi of his generation. Perhaps of any generation. The fastest. The strongest. An unbeatable pilot. An unstoppable warrior. On the ground, in the air or sea or space, there is no one even close. He has not just power, not just skill, but dash: that rare, invaluable combination of boldness and grace. He is the best there is at what he does. The best there has ever been. And he knows it.

mmm

However, its different when the person who's observed another's Jedi's power and is like "Nah, I lose, GG. You're better then me."

Like Mace Windu. 🙂

But really, lol @character opinions being more reliable than oou statements.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Like Mace Windu. 🙂

But really, lol @character opinions being more reliable than oou statements.

If a character sees another character, and says that they are better then them, that should be MORE then enough clarification that they are, you can't get much better then them.

Satele knows how good she is, but she obviously thinks the HoT as of Act I is better.

Unless you're implying Satele doesn't realize how powerful she is.

Basically, shes seen the stuff shes done, compared it to the HoT, and straight decided that he's better.