Who can beat Kun in sabers?

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Great. Kun's skill was unparalleled. I'm not sure how Sidious can claim that moniker for Vader, since he wasn't around all the other times there was a jedi killer. And I'm also not sure what that has to do with Vader's skill since like in the Jedi Temple, he was accompanied by a battalion of storm troopers.

Kun's skill was unparalleled among the other Jedi training at the Academy. Vader's skill was unparalleled amonst the Jedi hermits and Palpatine's disciples. I'll grant you that there's not a whole lot of disparity there.

Sidious' claim is questionable in that we don't know what he is precisely referring to (number of kills, or bred into the best warrior to combat Jedi, or what?), and indeed, comparisons to older characters would be difficult for anyone to measure. Sidious' authority on such matters only goes so far. Still, it's a better accolade than what Kun has under his belt.

I'll grant you that I support Kun in an overall duel, but not with respect to raw skill. But the sheer speed and ferocity of his saberstaff attacks could well overwhelm Vader.

Vader trained, and presumably sparred, and beaten Lumiya, and her ferocity and unorthodox style is up there with any in the mythos.

I fail to see why Kun's would present some problem that can't be circumvented, nor do I see Kun as faster than Vader.

Lol @ comparing Lumiya with Kun.

You can't always claim that one type of unorthodoxy is the same as another. Kun's Trakata-esque saberstaff technique isn't anything similar to Lumiya's lightwhip.

Although Obi-Wan apparently knew Trakata, so it might be reasonable to claim that Vader wouldn't be as caught off-guard by Kun's unorthodoxy.

@Neph:
It's not hard to tell what the point of my comparison was, lmao.

I was comparing her relentless lightsaber style to Kun, in showing Vader isn't foreign to combatants that use the unorthodox. Her initial embarrassment of Luke proves just how. erratics, ferocious, arcane her style really is.

Point is: I don't see Kun's style as a for sure win over someone as experienced with unorthodox weaponry as Vader. He's not foreign to relentless assault with erratics weapons [Lumiya], he's not foreign to duel phasing 'sabers [Count Dooku, his own blade], he's not foreign with double bladed users [Asajj Ventress] or Trakata [reasonably assuming Obi-Wan has used against him, in their decade + of sparring, or potentially taught it too him]. Vader chances are as good, or better, than Kun's IMO.

Also it's pretty retarded to bring up Kun's unorthodoxy when Vader is using a hybrid style that Kun haven't seen either 😬

A hybrid of the forms is still just composed of those forms. The moves would still be the same and recognisable. Pretty sure people have recognised and responded to his hybrid style without issue.

People responded to Kun's style as well 🙄

By dying, yes. 😆

The only thing that makes Kun unpredictable is the unusual nature of his weapon with its dual phase shit and what not, but there's no reason to believe someone sufficiently skilled and experienced would be able to handle it. Certainly Vader had no trouble dealing with Grievous 2.0 and we know he'd beat Maul.

Originally posted by Nephthys
By dying, yes. 😆

Can you get any shittier than this Neph?

I can try. No promises!

Lmao, Zoltan is the saddest person I've come across. And I know a lot of sad people.

Everyone should try to be nicer to everyone else imo.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Everyone should try to be nicer to everyone else imo.

Originally posted by Azronger
Lmao, Zoltan is the saddest person I've come across. And I know a lot of sad people.

You look a bit sad too with those tears in your eyes...Oh wait nevermind, they aren't from sadness just from gagging on Kun's dick like a cheap whore you are.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
The only thing that makes Kun unpredictable is the unusual nature of his weapon with its dual phase shit and what not, but there's no reason to believe someone sufficiently skilled and experienced would be able to handle it. Certainly Vader had no trouble dealing with Grievous 2.0 and we know he'd beat Maul.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
You look a bit sad too with those tears in your eyes...Oh wait nevermind, they aren't from sadness just from gagging on Kun's dick like a cheap whore you are.

Kun's dick is less bitter and salty than zoltan is imo. 🙂

I'd rather be salty than an imbecile like you 🙂