Originally posted by Azronger
Kun's unorthodoxy would catch Luke off-guard, but I doubt it would be the deciding factor since Luke is so much faster Kun would have trouble reacting, and so much stronger he could probably disarm Kun in a single blow.
He's not stronger than Kun and he's not disarming Kun in a single blow, that shit is worse than Sedriss getting killed by Bnar.
Theres a more decrypt comparison to be made for their physical strength, and it concerns Mandalorian iron -- Kun smashing a fat wall of the stuff compared to Lumiya blocking the Grandmaster's blade with a 4 centi-meter hilt made from the same material.
I wouldn't normally us this comparison, but the exposed sophistry behind Sedriss and Kun has lowered the standards of fair game.
Originally posted by Ziggystardust
He's not stronger than Kun and he's not disarming Kun in a single blow, that shit is worse than Sedriss getting killed by Bnar.
I'd say trading blows with Sidious - you know, the guy who easily overpowered Savage Opress - is a bit beyond Kun's ability to handle. And he's not exactly holding his saber very tightly with all his twirling, so I could definately see him getting disarmed in a single blow.
Originally posted by Azronger
[B]I'd say trading blows with Sidious
Enlightenment :
Even on Byss it shouldn't be this easy.
the guy who easily overpowered Savage Opress is a bit beyond Kun's ability to handle.
Enlightenment.
A combination of sheev's skill, speed, endurance and strength allowed him to overwhelm savage. Based on Strength alone, Savage was contending whether you like it or not. https://youtu.be/-7hBZNsPnyg?t=2m57s And more importantly, where are you making the comparison between Kun and Opress?
And he's not exactly holding his saber very tightly with all his twirling,
Explain.
so I could definately see him getting disarmed in a single blow.
That's nice, as war your attempt to reframe Bnar killing himself along with Sedriis into some flaccid scale against Kun. Now it's my turn.
There once was a Dark Lady who forged the handle of her lightwhip out of the near-indestructible Mandalorian iron, and uses that hilt to block opposing lightsabers, her name was Lumiya. Then one must remember that little incident with Luke Skywalker, where the Grandmaster confronts the person who (he thought) killed his wife, and decides to batter his opponent with signature Form V attacks:
One-two-three-four; she blocked him, handle held this way, then that, using the whip like a short lightsaber to deflect him, but Luke didn't pause or shift direction to wrong-foot her. He drove her like a battering ram toward the edge of the mesa, pushing her within meters, then a step, of the edge. Lumiya held the whip handle in both hands like a staff and blocked his downward sweep. For a moment they were locked in a stalemate, pushing against each other and grunting with the effort, with only the sounds of exertion because they had nothing left to say to each other.- Sacrifice
Lumiya - while driven back to a cliff edge - still manages to parry every single one of the Jedi Grandmaster's strikes with the hilt of her whip. A hilt made of the same material that Kun - not close to his prime - destroys in two hits. So based on this comparison, Kun should just break Luke's arms upon impact. :-)
Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Enlightenment :Even on Byss it shouldn't be this easy.
It was because of Byss it was that easy. Read.
Enlightenment.A combination of sheev's skill, speed, endurance and strength allowed him to overwhelm savage. Based on Strength alone, Savage was contending whether you like it or not. https://youtu.be/-7hBZNsPnyg?t=2m57s And more importantly, where are you making the comparison between Kun and Opress?
No, he wasn't:
Sidious pushed back Savage who came at him with a downward vertical jumping attack, with one hand. The timestamp you posted - he was obviously holding back, for basically the entirety of the duel. That's the only reason Savage could push him back for one second.
Where am I making the comparison? Well, Kun's claim to fame in the realm of strength feats is breaking Mandalorian Iron. However, he only achieved this by bumping up the intensity of his lightsaber to its maximum:
What does this mean? That Exar Kun was incapable of breaking MI with solely his natural strength, as can be observed from the comic when he failed on his first try. This is very clearly Kun's limit, so no other strength feats from him do not need to be mentioned.
What Kun did is not an isolated case. Grievous accomplished the same, and thus it can be concluded Kun and Grievous are about equally strong.
What has Grievous got to do with this? you ask. Well, it should be noted Count Dooku had very little trouble blocking Grievous' blows, which cannot be said when struck by Savage Opress.
Savage is much stronger than Kun. Sidious was overpowering Savage with laughable ease. Luke was trading blows equally with Sidious. Luke will disarm Kun in a single strike.
Explain.
It is Kun's fighting style. He doesn't hold his saber tightly like most duelist, but instead twirls it around dexterously, one-handed:
This would make it easier for Luke to disarm him.
That's nice, as war your attempt to reframe Bnar killing himself along with Sedriis into some flaccid scale against Kun. Now it's my turn.There once was a Dark Lady who forged the handle of her lightwhip out of the near-indestructible Mandalorian iron, and uses that hilt to block opposing lightsabers, her name was Lumiya. Then one must remember that little incident with Luke Skywalker, where the Grandmaster confronts the person who (he thought) killed his wife, and decides to batter his opponent with signature Form V attacks:
Lumiya - while driven back to a cliff edge - still manages to parry every single one of the Jedi Grandmaster's strikes with the hilt of her whip. A hilt made of the same material that Kun - not close to his prime - destroys in two hits. So based on this comparison, Kun should just break Luke's arms upon impact. :-) [/B]
Or maybe Luke just didn't have his lightsaber at the maximum intensity? Kun couldn't break MI by himself, either. Regardless, Luke can do much better, as I proved previously. This is just a low showing.
