Mr Sinister vs Manchester Black

Started by krisblaze2 pages

Sinister soes exceptionally well against tp/tk.

I'd say its his forte looking at his fight against Nate.

Even so I wouldnt be surprised if Black simply overpowered him

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Yea he's more a behind the scenes schemer...Who's the xmen buff here? Im honestly curious now

there used to be dozens of us.

as far as the fight does, I don't know tbh. I could see arguments for both people. if I had to pick someone though, i'd pick black as being more powerful, but i'm not sure he can actually kill Sinister. He's not exactly easy to do away with.

Black is quite hard to kill as well....

Originally posted by leonidas
he's owned jean and psylocke with tp, and even emma couldn't do anything against him until he took scott's brain patterns. he's beaten numerous incarnations of the x-factor teams and has even owned nate a couple times. physically he's smacked around strong guy like nothing. with some prep he was even able to hold his own against the phoenix 5. he can go astral, has survived having been nearly cut in half by scott:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/35308/1669212-xmen_v2_023_02_03_rougher.jpg

more recently he even survived decapitation without trouble and has been shown to be able to upgrade bodies. at times his molecular control makes him almost impossible to hurt. if we're assuming the highest showings for sinister, he could def make this a fight. it depends a bit on how you view black's tp--if you think he is way above the likes of emma, jean and maddie pryor, then maybe his tp would be enough. sinister has been called one of the top 5 psi's in marvel and personally, i don't think it would be. he'd likely be stronger but not enough to win convincingly that way. so it would come to black's tk vs sinister's offense and THAT may be where the trouble comes. sinister's offense is a bit....inconsistent and black's tk may be enough to override sinister's body control.

regardless, i don't see this as a stomp by any stretch and i think sinister could take some, but i'd give black the majority. he'd need to work to get by sinister's force fields though, but i think he could eventually. if sinister had some great, and consistent, offensive showings, i would take him more than likely.


Black is more powerful than Jean, Emma and Psylocke put together in TP and more skilled to boot.

The only reason he did anything to Nate because he had placed a psychic trap in his mind.

Black switches his mind to a random person and kills him just like he did to Bizarro and Superman.

And Bizarro's mind is so incomprehensible that Batman said he made Joker look sane and J'onn couldn't even read his mind.

While I don't generally buy into the DC hype about Saturn Girl being a greater telepath than the LT, I'd definitely say that Black is a magnitude greater than Emma or Jean.

Originally posted by carver9
Sinister kills him.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Black is quite hard to kill as well....

Of course, I was speaking only in relation to Black having generally better TP.

Originally posted by krisblaze
While I don't generally buy into the DC hype about Saturn Girl being a greater telepath than the LT, I'd definitely say that Black is a magnitude greater than Emma or Jean.

He's a good notch or two above either of them, yeah.

Was that actually him in Vera's mind? After he killed himself.

Not a stomp either way, that's just pure bias.

Black wins more often than not.