Novel!Vitiate vs Novel!Sidious

Started by The_Tempest2 pages
Originally posted by Sinious
I thought Plagueis' feats could be used to gauge where Sidious stands. It's still lame but better than ROTS Sheev's auto-victory via quotes.

Who brought up "auto victory via quotes"??

Are you still complaining about feat wars? lmao.

I did, as someone definitely would if a debate took place, which I don't have a problem with tbh. Just saying.

If this was supposed to be including the hype that comes out of these writers' flowery language, then barring specific quotes, I'm not sure who is portrayed as more powerful and epic.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Novel!Vitiate got put on his ass by Revan.

There are... worse characters to have difficulty against. I wouldn't call this very much of a black mark.

Originally posted by Lucius
There are... worse characters to have difficulty against. I wouldn't call this very much of a black mark.

Seeing as how he couldn't overpower Revan with uncharged lightning while on a dark side nexus, whereas Sidious could push Yoda's tutanimus to its limits on neutral territory, I think it's pretty damning. And there are plenty of quotes that suggest Yoda > any previous Jedi (which would include Revan).

Not even suggest, they outright state he is the greatest Jedi ever till that point in time.

Alternatively, there are quotes claiming Yoda was Sidious' equal in the Force.

There's more proclaiming Sidious as the more powerful one, especially in Canon.

True but even the novel alludes to the idea that Yoda could dance with him all day, he just wasn't capable of beating him. Stalemate in other words.

The novel has Sidious winning.

So if this is just Sidious up to RotS with all sources allowed, he stomps.

Who the **** voted for Vitate 😆

Originally posted by SunRazer
The novel has Sidious winning.
Yeah, the novel states that Yoda "just didn't have it" and that against Sidious' lightning he reached the limits of his strength.

I thought this would be a more contentious match considering the parallels. And both Karpyshyn and Stover are known for wankery.

The difference being that Stover doesn't have to sacrifice continuity and characterization to do it 🙂