I would put Thor a bit above Abom. The dude took multiple hits from the Hulk without taking too much damage. I doubt Thor could take the same abuse as easily. That said, Thor was still beating Hulk without his hammer in Avengers, so he would definitely do the same to Abom. Spidey and Lizard should give Abom the win though. Both of them are fast and strong enough to ragdoll Thor around or keep him busy as Abom lays in. All three of them together are just too much. The team takes it
Originally posted by Arachnid1
Thor was still beating Hulk without his hammer in Avengers
Really? Thats not how I saw it. He punched Hulk once and blocked a punch in which he could barely hold one of Hulks arms up with both of his. He needed the hammer after that. The only other time they were seen fighting without the hammer was when Hulk was tossing him around like a rag doll until the fighter jet started shooting him. Not sure how somebody could say Thor had the upper hand or that he would be favored in a fight without his hammer. Also, Hulk has been shown to be a good bit stronger. Look at what he does to the large Chitauri things compared to Thor. I thought this was pretty obvious but I guess not.
Originally posted by tkitna
Really? Thats not how I saw it. He punched Hulk once and blocked a punch in which he could barely hold one of Hulks arms up with both of his. He needed the hammer after that. The only other time they were seen fighting without the hammer was when Hulk was tossing him around like a rag doll until the fighter jet started shooting him. Not sure how somebody could say Thor had the upper hand or that he would be favored in a fight without his hammer. Also, Hulk has been shown to be a good bit stronger. Look at what he does to the large Chitauri things compared to Thor. I thought this was pretty obvious but I guess not.
Well let's see:
Without the hammer Thor dodged Hulk's first blow, punched Hulk 360, then blocked Hulk's 2nd blow. The only reason Hulk even landed a punch was because Thor tried to talk to him.
After that, the only reason Hulk was able to gain the upper hand again was because Thor tried to subdue Hulk with a choke hold instead of just raining down blows on him.
Now I'm not saying Thor will actually win h2h against the Hulk, but you have to admit that the only reason Hulk was able to land blows on Thor during their fight was because Thor made the mistake of subduing Hulk instead of just going all out.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Well let's see:Without the hammer Thor dodged Hulk's first blow, punched Hulk 360, then blocked Hulk's 2nd blow. The only reason Hulk even landed a punch was because Thor tried to talk to him.
After that, the only reason Hulk was able to gain the upper hand again was because Thor tried to subdue Hulk with a choke hold instead of just raining down blows on him.
Now I'm not saying Thor will actually win h2h against the Hulk, but you have to admit that the only reason Hulk was able to land blows on Thor during their fight was because Thor made the mistake of subduing Hulk instead of just going all out.
Oh God, now Thor's a speedster. I guess Thor was trying to talk to him and subdue him when he was being tossed around like a rag doll too? If Thor is so fast and untouchable, why bother blocking Hulk in the first place? He could have talked to him just as easily by dodging all of his attacks if he was half as fast as you seem to think. I give Thor absolutely zero chance in a fistfight against Hulk without his hammer. I'm not even sure he could beat him with the hammer to be honest.
Originally posted by tkitna
Oh God, now Thor's a speedster. I guess Thor was trying to talk to him and subdue him when he was being tossed around like a rag doll too? If Thor is so fast and untouchable, why bother blocking Hulk in the first place? He could have talked to him just as easily by dodging all of his attacks if he was half as fast as you seem to think. I give Thor absolutely zero chance in a fistfight against Hulk without his hammer. I'm not even sure he could beat him with the hammer to be honest.
Wow, where did you get speedster from? You do know you don't need to be a speedster to dodge and block blows right?
Fact is, Hulk only landed his first punch because Thor was busy trying to talk to him.
Then Hulk was only able to ragdoll Thor (twice only mind you) after Thor had tried to subdue Hulk with a choke. Prior to the choke Thor had the upperhand. it was because he tried choking the Hulk that Hulk gained the upper hand.
Here it is and I still cant for the love of me, find how anybody thinks Thor had the upper hand. Especially after Hulk punched him. Thor knew it was time for the hammer.
To each their own I guess.
Originally posted by tkitna
Here it is and I still cant for the love of me, find how anybody thinks Thor had the upper hand. Especially after Hulk punched him. Thor knew it was time for the hammer.To each their own I guess.
Ok let's try this from a different angle. When Hulk punched Thor, was Thor in the middle of trying to talk to Hulk?
Originally posted by FrothByte
Ok let's try this from a different angle. When Hulk punched Thor, was Thor in the middle of trying to talk to Hulk?
Yes he was and he also ducked a couple of punches too. Does that equate to the Hulk not being able to tag him in a fist fight? Eventually Hulk will get ahold of him and its all down hill from there for the Thunder God.
Originally posted by tkitna
Yes he was and he also ducked a couple of punches too. Does that equate to the Hulk not being able to tag him in a fist fight? Eventually Hulk will get ahold of him and its all down hill from there for the Thunder God.
Hulk probably eventually will but you don't have proof of that. He may or may not. What is certain however is that in that brief encounter while Thor was unarmed, Hulk was unable to hit Thor unless Thor was trying to talk to Hulk. Which is why we say Thor got the better of that engagement
Originally posted by FrothByte
Hulk probably eventually will but you don't have proof of that. He may or may not. What is certain however is that in that brief encounter while Thor was unarmed, Hulk was unable to hit Thor unless Thor was trying to talk to Hulk. Which is why we say Thor got the better of that engagement
It was two punches and one was a wild backhand. That's a pretty small sample for basing an entire fight on. That's like me saying that the fighter jet pilot probably saved Thor's life.
Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
How strong is Lizard
Seemed twice as strong as Spider-Man. Broke through concrete floors and single block thick concrete walls pretty easily. Cut through thin pieces of metal with his claws. Was throwing automobiles 60 to 80 feet probably. Punching and denting thin metal structures pretty easily with punches. Easily punched large holes through the thin metal roof of a car. Within seconds, healed from bullet holes, and a frozen hand. Did not pick up and throw anything larger than an automobile, never broke through any steel reinforced walls.
Originally posted by tkitna
It was two punches and one was a wild backhand. That's a pretty small sample for basing an entire fight on. That's like me saying that the fighter jet pilot probably saved Thor's life.
That's why I didn't say thatvThor will win a h2h fight against Hulk. Merely that he got the better of that engagement.
Originally posted by golem370
Before jumped out of the helicarrier he had the advantage you see Thor on the floor and grabbed again then the jet fires at both and Hulk jumps to the jet.
As mentioned previously, Hulk was only able to gain that upperhand when Thor tried to subdue the Hulk with a chokehold.
Originally posted by FrothByteHe thew Thor twice and had little to no effect there too. I don't see any reason why Thor wouldn't just stand up and resume the same fist fighting technique he had down in the beginning. Hulk just seemed to have snagged him while he was down and took advantage of it.
As mentioned previously, Hulk was only able to gain that upperhand when Thor tried to subdue the Hulk with a chokehold.
Thors one hammer hit had him dazed and staggering to his feet. I'm not sure how he thinks Hulk would win against Thor with his hammer. A few more good hits would have likely KOed him. There's also the fact that Thor has full access to all his powers with the hammer too, and those are powers that scrapped the Destroyer. With the hammer, Hulk wouldn't stand a chance.
Without the hammer, Thor seemed to be controlling the fight pretty handily and Hulks durability isn't near his level. Eventually he'd get the KO.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
Thors one hammer hit had him dazed and staggering to his feet. There's also the fact that Thor has full access to all his powers wI'm not sure how he thinks Hulk would win against Thor with his hammer. A few more good hits would have likely KOed him.Without the hammer, Thor seemed to be controlling the fight pretty handily and Hulks durability isn't near his level. Eventually he'd get the KO.
😆 You have got be kidding me. Thors one hammer hit managed to daze and stagger Hulk for all of about 2 seconds and then Hulk got pissed. We all know what happens when Hulk gets pissed. Also, how is anybody saying that Thors durability is superior to the Hulks? Where is this coming from? Hell, when the fighter jet was unloading on the Hulk, Thor was crawling on the floor like a baby so he wouldn't get hit.
Thor stands no chance what so ever in a H2H fight with the Hulk.