Originally posted by Galan007Devastating move? It was a thumbs down.
Originally posted by Galan007But in all seriousness,
what I have always found odd is that after Scathan removed the energy bindings from Protege,
LT proceeded to judge/own him without any issue:Why were LT's powers all of the sudden effective, iyo?
... the reason is simple and in the very same scans you just posted ...
... like notice all-mighty Scathan still gripping Protege with his bare hands.
LT "judged" (I wouldn't say "owned) a subdued Protege. Courtesy of Scathan. 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007
Devastating move? It was a thumbs down. 😂
But in all seriousness, what I have always found odd is that after Scathan removed the energy bindings from Protege, LT proceeded to judge/own him without any issue:
http://i.imgur.com/sQx1vOJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/kZfvNXf.jpg
Why were LT's powers all of the sudden effective, iyo?
Originally posted by Galan007
So you're assuming that Scathan physically holding Protege somehow rendered him inert? Then why bother with the energy muzzle at all?
Originally posted by zopzopThat isn't what he was talking about. We just clarified that above.
That's not what he's talking about. Scathan released an energy attack that scattered everyone there just prior to the "thumbs down" :
...And I was just joking with him anyway.
Originally posted by zopzopOf course I do, zop. However, the energy muzzle was removed when LT rendered his judgement, so Protege's powers should have been active. Seems like you guys are assuming Scathan's physical touch is also capable of negating Protege..? Why not just chalk that scene up to the inconsistent PIS it is?
Do you not see Scathan restraining the Protege?
Originally posted by Galan007
you guys are assuming Scathan's physical touch is also capable of negating Protege..?
Originally posted by zopzopI'm not doubting Scathan's superority. But when the muzzle was removed, and Protege had full view of LT(and the other cosmics) again, his powers *should* have been reactivated... Yet LT was all of the sudden able to judge him without so much as a pause.
Why wouldn't it? Everyone there was an 'omnipotent' he could have been doing a lot more than physically restraining the Protege and it just appeared that it was merely physical. We already know for sure that it was Scathan's power that saved the day (confirmed in LTs handbook entry). So it doesn't matter how or why it worked, we KNOW that it worked because Scathan > Protege and everyone there combined.
You can try to apply logic/assumptions to that portion of the scene all you'd like, but I take it as exactly what it is: PIS. Doesn't diminish Scathan's feat, mind you... It's just a pretty stupid loose end, is all.
Originally posted by zopzop
That's not what he's talking about.Scathan released an energy attack that scattered everyone there just prior to the "thumbs down"
Originally posted by Galan007That isn't what he was talking about. We just clarified that above.
I was talking about, what both of yall are saying, only as one.
What I mean is, I always took that scene as Scathan's "thumb's down" being the attack of energy.
Basically his gesture = the attack.
BUT, since he shot him from an off-panel angel,
he could've also blasted him, and THEN given the thumbs down, as I believe Zop is seeing it.
The "energy" doubtlessly came from Scathan directly, so,
it's a matter of, did he shoot first, or did he gesture and this produced a shot?
I just noticed it makes no difference. I would've edited this out, but meh, it's a cool read imo.
It's worth noting, (confirmed on panel in the story)
that Eternity was "multiversal" in that story,
and Hawkgod was "nigh multiversal"
LT was above them both.
They weren't the target, nevertheless they all got tossed from the boombastic Scathan blast.
Originally posted by Galan007...And I was just joking with him anyway.
Originally posted by leonidas
course, that was the same title where logan fought gladiator for....days? and ended up the winner iirc. good ole gotg....
Compare that to his recent showing when the Annihilators took on the Avengers and Wolverine stabbed right through him.
EDIT -
This site has excellent summaries and confirms my memory of the issue :
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/timelines/guardians-of-the-galaxy/page/0/1
Aboard the two spaceships, Wolverine was unanimously voted to replace Magneto as the leader of the expedition. Inadvertently, the two ships carrying the mutants trespassed into Shi’ar space, and Gladiator, the greatest warrior of the Shi’ar Empire was dispatched to deal with the unauthorized intruders. A confrontation between Logan and Gladiator lasted for six entire days. In the fight’s climax, Gladiator managed to break off the adamantium laced mid-claw of Wolverine’s right hand. Claiming victory, the Shi’ar then allowed the mutants to proceed.
