Re: Punisher vs. Roschach
Originally posted by FrothByteRorschach wins. More skilled and superhuman durability.
This is Netflix Punisher vs. Roschach from Watchmen. Both are sent to prison and they end up fighting in the prison's cafeteria.Both are unarmed but they have the option of using whatever is around as weapons. Fight till one combatant can no longer continue.
Who wins?
Re: Re: Punisher vs. Roschach
Originally posted by h1a8
Rorschach wins. More skilled and superhuman durability.
How is Rorsh more skilled? Punisher was almost equal to DD but more ruthless. And DD has been training in martial arts and to be ninja-like for many years. Plus his Radar sense, and Punisher still bested was pretty much equal or close.
And again with the "Super human" tag . I dont want to go into this again.
If we go by that nonsense I would have a list of hundreds of actions stars that are "super human" if we take your way of awarding that label so easily to them.
Originally posted by carthageYou must not have any MA expertise. We judge skill based off technique, speed, and reactions. Not who you fought. If Cap fought a common thug only then does that mean he doesn't have the skill to be a UFC fighter? It's how he beat the thug that gives evidence to what he can do to a more skilled fighter.
Agreed about the more skilled part, hard to beat his showing of being taken out by cops and killing a midget, his feat of constantly being a punching bag for Ozymandias is hard to top as well
Re: Re: Re: Punisher vs. Roschach
Originally posted by InhumanWe have to go by that standard so that everyone is on the same page. Otherwise I would get sandwiched between debaters using that standard and ones not using it.
How is Rorsh more skilled? Punisher was almost equal to DD but more ruthless. And DD has been training in martial arts and to be ninja-like for many years. Plus his Radar sense, and Punisher still bested was pretty much equal or close.And again with the "Super human" tag . I dont want to go into this again.
If we go by that nonsense I would have a list of hundreds of actions stars that are "super human" if we take your way of awarding that label so easily to them.
Re: Re: Re: Punisher vs. Roschach
Originally posted by Inhuman
How is Rorsh more skilled? Punisher was almost equal to DD but more ruthless. And DD has been training in martial arts and to be ninja-like for many years. Plus his Radar sense, and Punisher still bested was pretty much equal or close.And again with the "Super human" tag . I dont want to go into this again.
If we go by that nonsense I would have a list of hundreds of actions stars that are "super human" if we take your way of awarding that label so easily to them.
If Rorschach has superhuman durability, then so does Punisher, considering he took a nearly 15 foot drop off a water tower, bounced lower back first off the edge of a metal roof, dropped another 9-10 feet, and pretty much immediately got up and kept fighting.
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Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
If Rorschach has superhuman durability, then so does Punisher, considering he took a nearly 15 foot drop off a water tower, bounced lower back first off the edge of a metal roof, dropped another 9-10 feet, and pretty much immediately got up and kept fighting.
Also I forget how many tranquilizer darts it took to take down Punisher. They had to keep hitting him with the darts along with trying to beat him down and he was still fighting back.
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Originally posted by InhumanHe was beaten pretty badly when he was being tortured. He just has large damage soak.
Also I forget how many tranquilizer darts it took to take down Punisher. They had to keep hitting him with the darts along with trying to beat him down and he was still fighting back.
Originally posted by cdtm
Matt's a far cry from a mook, and is more likely then able to beat Ozy..
Matt has made a lot of progress over the two seasons, but he still has quite some way to go before he'd beat someone like Ozy.
There is likely to be some power creep for Defenders though, in order to stack up to the other members. We've seen less than a minute of Iron Fist, but already witnessed him smash what looked like a steel door out of a concrete mounting.