Malgus and Thanaton vs Dooku and Ventress

Started by chingchangwalla4 pages

FFS, Malgus hasn't got shit on Dooku.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Does it matter? The only part of Djem So Dooku mentioned as a problem was the strength, which Malgus has. Its not like the form is itself Dooku's kryptonite.

I just don'y want the misconception that Malgus = Djem So being thrown around liberally.

My TOR has waned in people's power ranking scales

Anakin is stronger than Malgus anyway.

From what we can see from the trailers and various descriptions of Malgus from Deceived he obviously incorporates elements of Shien in his fighting style and given his own incredible physical strength it only makes sens that he'd choose a form that would best take advantage of it ( I.E. Djem So ).

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Anakin is stronger than Malgus anyway.

Anakin being physically stronger is honestly debatable.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
From what we can see from the trailers and various descriptions of Malgus from Deceived he obviously incorporates elements of Shien in his fighting style and given his own incredible physical strength it only makes sens that he'd choose a form that would best take advantage of it ( I.E. Djem So ).

For me he looks more like a Juyo who encorporates Djem So. 😛

Well, my position is further backed up by Sidious giving Vader Malgus's notes and journals. Given Vader's main form was Djem So with his fighting style incorporating a mix of the other forms it's likely Malgus applied something similar. It may have even inspired Vader to develop it in the way that he did.

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Team 1 solidly. Ventress gets molested by Thanaton's sorcery, and Malgus is already on par with Dooku, so they duke it out until Thanaton finishes scraping Vntress off his boot.

Originally posted by Nephthys
He used an attack on Nox before it which Nox blocked. He didn't prep for his ritual attack.

That's true, I guess whether or not you think Ventress gets one shot is determined by how highly you rank her then. Team 1 definitely takes it for me then, for the reasons that Tondemonai stated.

However, I'd just like to say that I don't think Thanaton is substantially above Ventress as a combatant, just that his arsenal is better suited for fighting her.

What feats does Malgus have that put him on par with Dooku? What hype does he have that's better than Dooku's? Don't just give me that Malgus is stronger, has the form advantage and that makes up the difference.

Malgus having shaken an enormous transport with his rage, downed several fighters with a force scream, held an accelerating ship in place all before his prime and in his False Emperor incarnation breaking through the force defenses of the two force using protagonists ( Thor and HoT or Nox and Wrath ) simultaneously. He's also hyped as being one of Sidious's most powerful successors and one of the greatest Sith warriors in the Galaxy while he was still an apprentice.

Dooku and Asajj take sabers and all-out; Force is debatable, though Ventress' combative capability with it should not be underestimated.

In the Book of the Sith Sidious tracked five texts that, in some way or another, he considered fundamental to the Sith philosophy. Bane for example, was selected by his philosophical insights, Sorzus Syn was selected due to his ability with Sith alchemy and some others. Malgus solely due his battle prowess.

Malgus journal was also used by Sidious to inspire and to teach Vader how to channel his anger into power in a proper way.

Plus, according to Sidious, Malgus was an exemplary warrior whose battlefield feats had never been duplicated.

The fact that Vader himself can be inspired by Malgus' feats is an obvious indication that they are not trivial(how someone can be inspired by something they can easily replicate? Plus, it's completely consistent with "never duplicated" thing)

Saber advantage definitely goes to Team 2 and Ventress is a formidable force user having caused explosions with them and broken Obi Wan's barrier. I do believe Malgus and Thanaton take the Force round pretty decisively and due to their various advantage take all out.

Originally posted by MythLord
Dooku and Asajj take sabers and all-out; Force is debatable, though Ventress' combative capability with it should not be underestimated.

Team TOR solidly

Darth Malgus > Count Dooku
Darth Thanaton >>> Asajj Ventress

How do they win sabers? Lel.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
FFS, Malgus hasn't got shit on Dooku.
He ragdolled 4 protagonists...

Soundly beat Kao Cen Darach, Ven Zallow.