Ben Kenobi/Ahsoka Tano (Rebels) vs. Cade Skywalker/Darth Nihl

Started by cs_zoltan2 pages
Originally posted by SunRazer
Nihl's still the weakest, though. It's plausible that Ben could hold Cade off whilst Ahsoka takes down Nihl, then the two gang up on Cade.

Nihl's underrated too, but that could be a possible scenario in sabers only. Not in All-out tho, I imagine.

PS: Threads with teams would be much more interesting if people would actually treat it like a team fight, not just a series of 1on1 fight where the team with first blood wins. It's not directed at you Nova, just a general comment.

The mere fact that Ashoka can't immediately beat Darth Maul puts her below Cade as a duelist.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Nihl's underrated too, but that could be a possible scenario in sabers only. Not in All-out tho, I imagine.

PS: Threads with teams would be much more interesting if people would actually treat it like a team fight, not just a series of 1on1 fight where the team with first blood wins. It's not directed at you Nova, just a general comment.

The problem being that in the mythos, most team fights split off into separate duels.

Well yeah, but realistically nothing stops them to help out their teammates if the team work is good enough and/or one of the combatants is more fomidable than his opponent enough to spare a few moments to help.

Like here: https://youtu.be/mm4JEZudf0c?t=3m

They can help block a couple of strikes at most. Which could be a game changer, but still.

Depending on the terrain, the fight could also split up with too much distance in between for much help between the two fights.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Krayt had to touch Cade to enact Dark Transfer. That counts as a breach of Cade's defenses.
Which is a display of Force speed at best, doesn't really look as if he battered through his lightsaber defenses first.

That's be like saying blitzing is just Force speed, not skill.

Penetration of defenses is skill as well as speed, lol.

It is, well done.

But sure, I guess Krayt gets points for finding an opening in which he wouldn't get his hand cut off. But physical strikes in combat are hardly uncommon.

So if featless X blitzed Y, X is still featless in terms of skill, just fast?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
I'm not convinced of this off-panel argument though, seems to me that those events are concurrent with the second half of Cade vs Krayt considering this panel seems to follow on from this panel in terms of dialogue.

By that logic every off-panel/screen is a paralel event 🙄

Originally posted by Beniboybling
But sure, I guess Krayt gets points for finding an opening in which he wouldn't get his hand cut off. But physical strikes in combat are hardly uncommon.

Yeah, Hett tagged Kenobi as well, the absolute master of Soresu. So one could say Hett > Kenobi, but we know that's not true.

Originally posted by SunRazer
So if featless X blitzed Y, X is still featless in terms of skill, just fast?
Yes. What skill really is necessary when your opponent simply cannot keep up? The ability to strike a killing blow, nothing more.

If you're dodging their every strike, it'd also include at least equal skill 🙂

Cade and Nihl.

Nihl dies first in every scenario, then Cade gets DP'd. Team 1 wins.

And when Vader leaves the Malachor Temple, he's beat to shit and badly wounded.