Superman Prime vs. Phoenix Five

Originally posted by Galan007
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And as the OP pic seems to indicate: this is Guardian-amped Prime, who was WAY more haxx than normal. Honestly wouldn't be surprised if he ripped all of their heads off right out of the gate. /shrug

hmm, if it's GA prime that might be different. still, can't see i don't think. he'd likely kill all of them til the last one though and it's possible he could take the final host... seemed clear to me that the last host was considered in that arc to be beyond cyttorak in his own realm though, so....that says a lot to me. i'd still take the p5 but yeah, it's not impossible to see prime winning.

Originally posted by leonidas
seemed clear to me that the last host was considered in that arc to be beyond cyttorak in his own realm though,

Is there an issue i missed

See, I thought Cyttorak implied that he was well beyond the PF in its entirety(while in his own realm, at least):

see, when he says even with a FIFTH of the great power you're not more powerful, seems to me he's implying that a fifth isn't enough but a fifth is a LONG way from the whole..... guess different strokes but to me he was comparing himself only to a fifth of it. the whole thing seems like it would be well beyond him imo. makes sense since it IS a universal level force while cyttorak isn't even definitively above guys like odin or dormmamu--if he is he likely isn't far above them. /shrug

I see where you're coming from. Makes sense, just never looked at his statement that way. I read it as "Yeah, b*tch we're in my realm. Wouldn't even matter if you had the full PF.... Here I'm God."

srug

Originally posted by Galan007
I see where you're coming from. Makes sense, just never looked at his statement that way. I read it as "Yeah, b*tch we're in my realm. Wouldn't even matter if you had the full PF.... Here I'm God."

srug

This

lol

Originally posted by leonidas
see, when he says even with a FIFTH of the great power you're not more powerful, seems to me he's implying that a fifth isn't enough but a fifth is a LONG way from the whole..... guess different strokes but to me he was comparing himself only to a fifth of it. the whole thing seems like it would be well beyond him imo. makes sense since it IS a universal level force while cyttorak isn't even definitively above guys like odin or dormmamu--if he is he likely isn't far above them. /shrug

cool. thought i was losing my mind for a second there.....

You're both sort of right imo

He did say "even with a 5th...", which basically shows that it's a respectful power upgrade even to the mind of a creature like that but to him it's simply not enough to challenge him in his own realm made up and full of his own mystical energy, but he also started that by saying that even in a dream 1/5 isn't enough.

Looks to me like going over just how different the power is between 1/5 and 2/5 etc makes a host to see if the full force would still be less than ideal to deal with him in his realm, unless that happens you kinda have to think that the casual dismissal was because 1/5 is so utterly beneath him that you'd need the full power to challenge him based on Phoenix feats in similar conditions

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
That's a ridiculous conclusion my friend. If someone beats you down to where you are completely incapacitated and chooses not to finish the job and end your life, that by no means doesn't mean they could not have done so. In top of that, Namor (who had the most one on one with him) looks completely superior throughout the fight.

i see your point. i was just thinking if gladiator took the beating from all of them and survived it means more or less that means they will have to break a sweat to kill a high herald durability level being. however regardless of that showing, i simply see superman prime as a whole different level being. destroying planets for fun. minotrs are too scared to even try and resist him. breaking fifth dimension walls and owning mxy and annataz. overpower monarch and open his suit something several superman failed to do combined. then while losing a good amount of the guardian amp he is taking a universal blast. duting his very limited arc i saw him as skyfather level he was too uber. i dont see the phoenix 5 winning against this guy. his strength speed and durability are just on whole other levels. but thats my opinion.

The Phoenix could create a Universe, chances are she could destroy one, and than some.

Prime gets curbed.

Originally posted by t0sh
The Phoenix could create a Universe, chances are she could destroy one, and than some.

Prime gets curbed.

Prime rips them apart. only some of them like cyclops were impressive. namor and colossus werent at all. eventually the last one will get destroyed by prime. on the guardian amp he was too powerful. please show me phoenix destroying a universe or as you said "and then some".

Originally posted by leonidas
cool. thought i was losing my mind for a second there.....

I don't even see a full powered member of the P5 being able to move planets around ftl like toys. They wouldn't have that type of power. Or would they?

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't even see a full powered member of the P5 being able to move planets around ftl like toys. They wouldn't have that type of power. Or would they?

it probably should be p5.

id give it to demonic juggernaut phoenix force colossus

Originally posted by staxamillion
it probably should be p5.

id give it to demonic juggernaut phoenix force colossus

are you for real? do you even know who superman prime is or you just googles their pictures and chose who looks cooler?

Prime wins

prime dismantles them