Malgus FE feats-game mechanics?

Started by Selenial3 pages
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
That's what the entire discussion is about, Sel.

Nah, the discussion is about force power.

I can understand exerting all his energy, but Neph is genuinely arguing that Malgus is such a shit swordsman that he couldn't beat a ****ing trooper.

Who says I'm not arguing that too. 😉

I doubt swordsmanship would come into play in such a fight.

Are people assuming that Darth Malgus could not affect members of the Strike Team with his powers? We have solid evidence of it happening.

However, cut-scenes do not tell us everything.

Imagine two (Force-user) protagonists engaging you head-on and the other two attacking you from a safe-distance. That is lot of distraction and firepower to contend with. We should not fault Darth Malgus for failing against such odds.

Darth Malgus was identified as one of the most powerful predecessors of Palpatine; arguably, more powerful than any apprentice of Palpatine.

The thing is that most people are trying to find a logical explanation by analysing the fight, much like how these battles are discussed on this forum (or CV). This is obviously going to present problems because there are numerous of factors you can't control or predict in a fight. E.g. when Malgus is facing these characters it's probably not just going to be a head on fight in which Malgus, according to the game mechanics, should win but the protag characters are also going to work as a team which means that it's very important which kind of attack is executed by who and when, that's something you can't possibly predict. Imagine looking at the Maul vs Obi-Wan fight in TPM and only knowing that Kenobi won but not how (much like in this case), what would your conclusion be?

So yes, Malgus FE feats can definitely be taken serious and dismissing them based on "he did lose" just isn't right (and only represents a very limited thinking process).

Not really. If you take it seriously, you either accept it was something he did in the heat of the moment/took advantage of a lapse in defenses, in which case it isn't as applicable as people make it out to be, or that he can simply penetrate their Force defenses at any time, making him that much more powerful than HoT + Barsen'Thor/Nox + Wrath, which is ridiculous.

But given how regularly this happens, then I guess Obi-Wan can move over, because it looks like the TOR protags have shittier Force defenses 👆

Originally posted by SunRazer
Not really. If you take it seriously, you either accept it was something he did in the heat of the moment/took advantage of a lapse in defenses, in which case it isn't as applicable as people make it out to be, or that he can simply penetrate their Force defenses at any time, making him that much more powerful than HoT + Barsen'Thor/Nox + Wrath, which is ridiculous.

But given how regularly this happens, then I guess Obi-Wan can move over, because it looks like the TOR protags have shittier Force defenses 👆

I said "can", I only debated against using the "Malgus lost to the group so his feats are not usable/inconsistenties". If in the end those feats are over the top, well I don't really care for that.

Originally posted by SunRazer
But given how regularly this happens, then I guess Obi-Wan can move over, because it looks like the TOR protags have shittier Force defenses 👆
Considering how they were stomped by Arcann, maybe they are just that bad. 🙂