Comparing the Ancient Sith to Modern Sith

So you don't take the Thanaton quote anymore?

I mean, it'd make sense to claim that it was hyperbole, not that it was an editing error so that you can take this one literally, lmfao 😆

Originally posted by SunRazer
You know Vitiate has to die sometime, right?

And since he's all about rituals, it seems like the protagonist, Arcann, Dramath, and a bunch of the others band up to use a ritual to eliminate him. Or at least attempt to. I don't remember.

It is obvious that he cannot be conventionally challenged.

Originally posted by SunRazer
So you don't take the Thanaton quote anymore?

I mean, it'd make sense to claim that it was hyperbole, not that it was an editing error so that you can take this one literally, lmfao 😆

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I read it as "one of the most powerful in galactic history."

Plo Koon has that. Doesn't matter.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I take that as an editing error.

Lol.

So do you think Vitiate is literally invincible? Or if you acknowledge that it's just hyperbole, what good does it do to your point?

It's funny because you try so earnestly to dismiss Stover's novel as being filled with hyperbolic content, but then take "supremely powerful" as a serious accolade.

Dooku's the axis of the universe.

GGWP TOR, not even you can contend with Stover's hyperbole 😆

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Lol.

So do you think Vitiate is literally invincible? Or if you acknowledge that it's just hyperbole, what good does it do to your point?

It's funny because you try so earnestly to dismiss Stover's novel as being filled with hyperbolic content, but then take "supremely powerful" as a serious accolade.

A powerful ritual is a decent method to dismiss him though.

Vitiate is (objectively) supremely powerful, in TOR universe.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Vitiate is an immortal being so conventional methods are not going to stop him.

A powerful ritual is a decent method to dismiss him though.

Vitiate was objectively supremely powerful.

No he isn't, or he would've just destroyed the Republic by blinking.

But if your definition of "supreme" is just "more powerful than anyone else around", then sure, barring entities, Vitiate was supreme in his time. That hardly means he's better than people in the modern era.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
One of the worst rankings I have seen in a long time.

Yeah, some of these rankings are pretty shit, lmao.

I use the new Bane statement that states he surpassed all Sith before him and then scale how hes the weakest of the RO2. But Palpatines apprentices are hard to rank since they would not share that power scaling. 19 bby Vader for example is weaker than Muur but if he benefited from RO2 scaling he would have dismissed him.

I'm Not sure for Force, this looks OK

Dooku ~ RotJ Vader ~ Exar Kun
Obi Wan ~ Tulak Hord
Ventress ~ Marka Ragnos <= Darth Revan
And then down from there.

Originally posted by The Merchant
I use the new Bane statement that states he surpassed all Sith before him and then scale how hes the weakest of the RO2. But Palpatines apprentices are hard to rank since they would not share that power scaling. 19 bby Vader for example is weaker than Muur but if he benefited from RO2 scaling he would have dismissed him.

I don't think Vader can realistically be weaker than Bane, not when his potential rivals Sidious's (.i.e. "cut in half" from double), and he's already near the age of Bane's prime.

Originally posted by The Merchant
I use the new Bane statement that states he surpassed all Sith before him and then scale how hes the weakest of the RO2. But Palpatines apprentices are hard to rank since they would not share that power scaling. 19 bby Vader for example is weaker than Muur but if he benefited from RO2 scaling he would have dismissed him.

That new Bane statement is Canon; it doesn't apply to Legends.