Force
1. Luke Skywalker
2. Kyp Durron
3. Caedus
4. Streen, Leia
5. Kenth Hamner
6. Jaina Solo, Mara Jade
7. Corran Horn
8. Kyle Katarn
9. Anakin Solo
10. Alema Rar, Jaden Korr
Sabers:
1. Luke Skywalker
2. Jacen Solo
3. Jaina Solo
4. Tresina Lobi, Mara Jade
5. Kyle Katarn
6. Saba Sebatyne
7. Corran Horn
8. Anakin Solo
9. X2
10. Kam Solusar
I usually place the higher tier NJO masters not named Luke, Kyp or Jaina in the season 1-5 TCW Obi Wan tier.
Luke - DE Sidious on Malachor in Force, past that in sabers
Caedus - Krayt (between Vader and Yoda) in Force, post Plagueis death Sidious in sabers
Kyp - post-Nathema Vitiate/slightly above Vader in Force (Yoda+ in raw power), TCW Obi Wan/Galen Marek in sabers
Jacen - Galen Marek in Force, Dooku in sabers
Jaina - SoD Maul in Force, RotS Obi Wan in sabers
Kyle - RotS Obi Wan in Force, TCW Obi Wan in sabers
New list:
Force power:
1. Luke Skywalker
2. Kyp Durron
3. Jacen Solo
4. Leia Organa Solo
5. Streen
6./7. Jaina Solo Fel/Mara Jade Skywalker
8. Anakin Solo
9. Kenth Hamner
10./11. Kyle Katarn/Corran Horn
12. Jaden Korr
13. Saba Sebatyne
14. Kam Soulsar
15. Alema Rar
If we count Vergere, she would probably be close to the top, most likely 4.
Cilghal is hard to rank, she could be anywhere below Jacen tbh.
Alema is also hard to rank. While most of her force powers are impressive, they aren´t out of the reach of, let´s say, Tahiri Veila. But her TP is insane, and she could be much higher in the list.
Dueling
1. Luke Skywalker
2. Jacen Solo
3. Jaina Solo
4. Mara Jade Skywalker
5. Kyle Katarn
6. Saba Sebatyne
7. Tresina Lobi
8./9. Anakin Solo/Corran Horn
10. Kam Soulsar
11. Leia Organa Solo
11. Kenth Hamner
13. Kyp Durron
14. Tahiri Veila
15. Alema Rar
Completely dunno, where to rank Jaden and X2 tbh.
Force power:
1. Kyp Durron
2. Luke Skywalker
3. Jacen Solo
4. Jaina Solo
5. Mara Jade Skywalker
6. Kenth Hamner
7. Anakin Solo
8. Ganner Rhysode
9. Leia Organa Solo
10. Ganner Rhysode/Jaden Korr
Lightsaber combat:
1. Luke Skywalker
2. Jacen Solo
3. Jaina Solo
4. Mara Jade Skywalker
5. Kyle Katarn
6. Saba Sebatyne
7. Kyp Durron
8. Tresina Lobi
9. Corran Horn
10. Kenth Hamner.
Originally posted by UrsumelesFor creating a mini controversy. 😄
Kyp > Luke?
Originally posted by UrsumelesThat was a mistake.
Ganner two times? xD
Originally posted by UrsumelesI don't know much about Streen's power, so I didn't put him in the list.
And what about Streen?
Originally posted by UrsumelesKyp was described as being an "expert swordmaster" by Luke in Backlash ; he was also able to duel evenly with Luke in Fury.
Kyp > Lobi|Corran dueling wise?
Originally posted by UrsumelesKenth was able to contend with Saba quite well( with circumstances, though).
And why is Kenth > Kam|Leia?
Originally posted by GM Yoda
Kyp was described as being an "expert swordmaster" by Luke in Backlash;
So was Daeshara'Cor... It's a generic accolade.
Originally posted by GM Yoda
he was also able to duel evenly with Luke in Fury.
Luke in spars tends to hold back drastically. Even Leia beat him in a spar during the Corellian Trilogy.
Durron is an insanely talented swordsman, but I don't think these things are what put him so high up there. Instead: slaughtering Vong, being an exotic weapons specialist, having the raw power to carry his physicals and wield his blade more effectively, and holding some form of parity with Kyle K is what places him so high up.