Vjun-Amped Dooku vs Darth Plaguies

That cherry-picking is so good that the farmers here in Australia need your help to pick their fruit. I love how you highlighted the part where Venamis knew Plagueis' style inside-out but failed to mention that Dooku lacks such knowledge, and instead pretended that Plagueis' form was predictable. Which it obviously would be to someone who knew everything about his form, but not to someone who doesn't possess such knowledge, like Dooku. 😬

Also, the part you quoted about "surrendering his precision and accuracy" was referring to Venamis, not Plagueis. Plagueis was the one who masterfully drew that out of Venamis despite the latter appearing refined and masterful, and that's how Plagueis won the fight.

So no, Plagueis doesn't employ wild strikes lacking precision and finesse - it's the opposite - he drew that out of someone who appeared masterful in combat. So in actuality, Plagueis is quite the refined swordsman with understanding of technique and precision.

You also continued to ignore my earlier point about how Sidious also considered lightsaber dueling to be tedious and only useful for humoring and humiliating Jedi, yet he's indeed better than Dooku as a swordsman. A lack of focus on saber combat isn't as important as being vastly stronger than someone in the Force.

And in the end, you weren't even reading Ellimist's post properly. He never said anything about Dooku not holding the edge in pure saber technique, only that he wasn't vastly more skilled, which you didn't even address.

Originally posted by SunRazer
That cherry-picking is so good that the farmers here in Australia need your help to pick their fruit.

Originally posted by SunRazer I love how you highlighted the part where Venamis knew Plagueis' style inside-out but failed to mention that Dooku lacks such knowledge, and instead pretended that Plagueis' form was predictable. Which it obviously would be to someone who knew everything about his form, but not to someone who doesn't possess such knowledge, like Dooku. 😬

Originally posted by SunRazer[/i[
Also, the part you quoted about "surrendering his precision and accuracy" was referring to Venamis, not Plagueis. Plagueis was the one who masterfully drew that out of Venamis despite the latter appearing refined and masterful, and that's how Plagueis won the fight.

[i]Originally posted by SunRazer
So no, Plagueis doesn't employ wild strikes lacking precision and finesse - it's the opposite - he drew that out of someone who appeared masterful in combat. So in actuality, Plagueis is quite the refined swordsman with understanding of technique and precision.[/b]

Originally posted by SunRazer
You also continued to ignore my earlier point about how Sidious also considered lightsaber dueling to be tedious and only useful for humoring and humiliating Jedi[/b]

Originally posted by SunRazer
, yet he's indeed better than Dooku as a swordsman. A lack of focus on saber combat isn't as important as being vastly stronger than someone in the Force.[/b]

Originally posted by SunRazer

And in the end, you weren't even reading Ellimist's post properly. He never said anything about Dooku not holding the edge in pure saber technique, only that he wasn't vastly more skilled, which you didn't even address. [/B]

Originally posted by Kurk
Thanks, I learn from Quanchi 🙂

That explains it. 🙂

Dooku would analyze Plagueis and find a pattern/weakness like Makashi calls for and exploit it. Plagueis on the other hand would not find such impurities in Dooku's form.

He might, if Force exhaustion doesn't clamp down on his perceptions and force him to retreat, without any hope of even retaliating. Sound familiar?

This would not happen with Dooku simply b/c of his dedication to Makashi. Being a defensive form, Plagueis would be forced to prod and attack not Dooku.

Plagueis wouldn't be forced to do anything, but yes, he would attack, and overwhelm Tyranus.

You are going to argue that Plagueis had a superior knowledge of Makashi to Dooku?

I don't know how you got that from the part you quoted. I don't even want to know.

Who says he used it to humiliate jedi?

He - Sidious - did.

Sidious is stronger than Plagueis is the force. The disparity between Dooku and Plagueis is not so great that the latter can not contend with him long enough to exploit openings.

Dooku can contend - just that he'll be on the permanent retreat and be expending his Force reserves lavishly on merely meeting Plagueis' blows, let alone doing anything else.

Plagueis' victory against Venamis is very impressive and constitutes an extremely high level of blade skill and more importantly, combative intellect. He's more than capable of holding his own against Tyranus with a blade, and factoring in his vastly superior physicals, Dooku's going to be outlasted and beaten into submission.

By definition all interpretations are valid

I didn't say anything about interpretations, and by definition, failure to respond to a point is a concession.