Thanos vs Classic Juggernaut (fist fight)

Originally posted by basilisk
These days Subby and even characters like America Girl seem to draw blood from Thanos with a single punch... it might be possible for Juggernaut to eventually beat Thanos down to the point where he can't get back up but this fight would go on a long time.

So it's probably effectively a stalemate with the fist fight limitation.

We are using flat-out PIS? Oh cool.

American girl is a monster. She is most definitely top tier. Hell, probably Trans tier looking at her recent performance against the Ultimates.

Thanos has CONSISTENTLY been hurt or effected by high herald level blunt force. He has an outlier or two of resisting blasts. But blasts aren't blunt force strikes or bear hugs. Without bfr, Juggs wins.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thanos has CONSISTENTLY been hurt or effected by high herald level blunt force. He has an outlier or two of resisting blasts. But blasts aren't blunt force strikes or bear hugs. Without bfr, Juggs wins.

High heralds have never been close to putting Thanos down physically.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Juggs has been hurt by physical force loads of times or do you just ignore that.

High heralds have never been close to putting Thanos down physically.

The difference is that Thanos, nearly 100% percent of the time, has been affected by high herald blunt force. Thus its his norm. Only version of Classic Juggs to be affected is the one without his FF. But even that version has been affected less than 1% of the time, making them NOT the norm.

I believe the version in this thread is the one with the forcefield. But I could be wrong.

So I'll say this.
FF yes then Juggs win
FF no then Thanos wins.

Originally posted by h1a8
The difference is that Thanos, nearly 100% percent of the time, has been affected by high herald blunt force. Thus its his norm. Only version of Classic Juggs to be affected is the one without his FF. But even that version has been affected less than 1% of the time, making them NOT the norm.

I believe the version in this thread is the one with the forcefield. But I could be wrong.

So I'll say this.
FF yes then Juggs win
FF no then Thanos wins.

Cain can't do anything from behind his ff. plus he's been hurt far more than the BS 1% you just made up.

Originally posted by carver9
American girl is a monster. She is most definitely top tier. Hell, probably Trans tier looking at her recent performance against the Ultimates.

Originally posted by basilisk
I am beginning to think you are right - in fact both America Gril and Vision did quite well against the Ultimates while both times Thanos fought them he ended up KTFO sleeping on the floor after 3.5 minutes. I guess that's just how comics are these days.

Originally posted by carver9
Who's taking this h2h match? Physical amping is allowed.

Who do you think wins?

Originally posted by Insane Titan
you say "affected" like it means something, when in reality he came nowhere close to losing. Thor is stronger than juggernaut physically and amping with the pg only made Thanos nose bleed a bit.

Cain can't do anything from behind his ff. plus he's been hurt far more than the BS 1% you just made up.

Being affected proves that with enough hits they will eventually go down. A battle of attrition even. I disagree that Thor is stronger than Juggernaut on average. Juggs was on the verge of killing Thor once by physical force. I would say they are peers.

We don't know how much Thor was amped or his strength level with the PG. Remember characters operate at different levels at different times. From before the PG and after the PG Thor only appeared slightly amped. I would say less than 2x.

We are talking about Classic Juggs. He was hurt a very small fraction of his appearances. One or two of the showings are PIS and can't be used as evidence.
But that was Juggs written without a FF.

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Originally posted by h1a8
Being affected proves that with enough hits they will eventually go down. A battle of attrition even. I disagree that Thor is stronger than Juggernaut on average. Juggs was on the verge of killing Thor once by physical force. I would say they are peers.

We don't know how much Thor was amped or his strength level with the PG. Remember characters operate at different levels at different times. From before the PG and after the PG Thor only appeared slightly amped. I would say less than 2x.

We are talking about Classic Juggs. He was hurt a very small fraction of his appearances. One or two of the showings are PIS and can't be used as evidence.
But that was Juggs written without a FF.

You disagree because you nothing of both characters.

Same old bullshit with the 2x stronger shit. The damage he did to Thanos proves he was far stronger than normal and it was stated on panel his strength was increasing by the minute from the moment he got the gem.

Classic juggs has still been hurt loads of times and you just claiming pis is trolling.

Again juggs can't just sit behind his ff hoping to win

that's bullshit , Thanos took loads of cosmic amped punches from his doppelgänger and wasn't close to going down. Again non of these heralds came close to putting Thanos down as he fights back.

You disagree because you nothing of both characters.

Same old bullshit with the 2x stronger shit. The damage he did to Thanos proves he was far stronger than normal and it was stated on panel his strength was increasing by the minute from the moment he got the gem.

Classic juggs has still been hurt loads of times and you just claiming pis is trolling.

Again juggs can't just sit behind his ff hoping to win

Being affected proves that with enough attacks he will eventually go down. Whether it takes 10 attacks or a million it doesn't matter. Juggs will effect Thanos enough to ko Kim after enough hits. You can argue how many hits it would take though. It's irrelevant.

A couple of times were PIS and can't be used. That leaves only a small few non PIS times where classic Juggs was affected. Nevertheless those times were not Juggs with FF. So Juggs being hurt is irrelevant here.

Do bottom line : Juggs with FF wins and Juggs without FF loses.

Originally posted by h1a8
Being affected proves that with enough attacks he will eventually go down. Whether it takes 10 attacks or a million it doesn't matter. Juggs will effect Thanos enough to ko Kim after enough hits. You can argue how many hits it would take though. It's irrelevant.

A couple of times were PIS and can't be used. That leaves only a small few non PIS times where classic Juggs was affected. Nevertheless those times were not Juggs with FF. So Juggs being hurt is irrelevant here.

Do bottom line : Juggs with FF wins and Juggs without FF loses.

You don't get to say what can and can't be used because it's PIS. The fact you're trying to claim PIS because you're clueless as to what happened and are just guessing.

Stalemate

Juggernaut has the worst resume in comics.

Gladiator was moved by Cannonball yet bounced off Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
again you're talking rubbish these affects as you say didn't come close to putting Thanos down or had context to them. You name these instances. Juggernaut has never beaten down anyone close to a Thanos lvl.

You don't get to say what can and can't be used because it's PIS. The fact you're trying to claim PIS because you're clueless as to what happened and are just guessing.

Again if Juggs has the FF then Thanos can do nothing to him while he slowly dents into Thanos. It's just a matter of time.

Without the FF then I would say Thanos wins.