Dart Traya/Scourge vs. Darth Caedus/Starkiller

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Also, I don't understand why you say: "Traya killing 20x featless fodder is unimpressive" but "Scrouge killed a lot fodder, thats impressive" and "An padawan could've done the Enclave feat" but "Korr moved a huge rock, impressive!"

Thats because Scourge did hella more then take down Fodder, he stalemated the best that the Jedi could offer.

Where do you put Jaden?

Originally posted by Jmanghan
That huge rock was MUCH larger then the chunks of enclave that the masters were picking up, and they were doing it as a team.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Where do you put Jaden?

So.. right below him, or his equal.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Maybe, but oneshotting them is still impressive af.

Where do you put Katarn relative to other era's characters?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Where do you put Katarn relative to other era's characters?

What about other era's characters?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
What about other era's characters?

Why?

Where do you rank him?

Well I was trying to figure out how good you think Jaden is relative to better established characters.

I have peak Kyle around end of TCW Obi Wan level.

Originally posted by darthbane77
Safe to say either Caedus or Galen could solo tbh.

Well, the clone. Not so sure about Galen Marek.

Given he's dominated Vader in the Force I'd say your level of surety needs to be corrected.

Didn't Vader also briefly dominate him?

He attempted to but ultimately failed as Galen beat him back with his own telekinetic attack. Vader upon attempting to do the same failed to escape from Galen's grip.

He did to the clone, apparently.

It doesn't seem like either has a particularly conclusive edge in power. They were probably exploiting lapses in each other's defenses.

Well I understand why you'd think that if you have Starkiller and Galen on the same level but why is that? Galen's performed far better against Vader and his feats against Sidious should put him solidly above the clone.

Unless, I'm mistaken, a clone holds identical powers, lol.

Vader could've easily grown since.

They hold identical potential but identical capabilities? Not so and that in itself is evident throughout the EU and TFUII itself in regards to the aberrant clones.

Of course but by that much? Doubtful.

Those clones were genetically unstable, weren't they? This clone seems to be an exact replica of Marek.

Most of them but there are some that are simply mentally/emotional unstable but possess power comparable or even superior to Starkiller's own. Also there are plenty of examples throughout the EU of the clones not having equal capabilities to their templates the Vader and Luke clone come to mind.