Actually 5 years have passed IIRC.
Anyway the Outlander could be any one the protags, and at which point the others may be dead, or otherwise indisposed.
What "powerful" pertains to must also be be brought into question considering at this point he remains far weaker than Valk's children in the Force.
5 years have passed after you get frozen in carbonite. At the start when Valkorion possesses you it's been a few months with nothing significant happening.
I'm not the one who made the Hero the unilaterally voted default Outlander here.
There's no way to take it other than combatively since when he possesses the Outlander, they're hardly powerful in any other capacity. Also the timeskip afterwards (or the carbonite damage) could be when Arcann outstrips them, the Outlander could have been better before that point.
Originally posted by NephthysFair enough.
5 years have passed after you get frozen in carbonite. At the start when Valkorion possesses you it's been a few months with nothing significant happening.
I'm not the one who made the Hero the unilaterally voted default Outlander here.Who did then, BioWare?
There's no way to take it other than combatively since when he possesses the Outlander, they're hardly powerful in any other capacity.There are actually, like threat level. For example Luke could be described as the Emperor's most powerful opponent despite being weaker than Vader and Gethzerion, because the former is his b@tch and the later is trapped on Dathomir.
Even if we assume the HoT is the Outlander and other protags are either dead or AWOL, in either case not a threat to Valk.
Still, even if we intepret it in a combative sense, that wouldn't necessarily make him the most masterful in the Force.
Also the timeskip afterwards (or the carbonite damage) could be when Arcann outstrips them, the Outlander could have been better before that point.Seems unlikely, Arcann appears to come into his own before that, and no indication of such significant progression is given.
Alternatively, Valkorion simply might not see his children as such a threat. More of nuisance.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Fair enough. Who did then, BioWare?
Well kind of....
But I more meant the other members of this forum. Everyone's agreed to it.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
There are actually, like threat level. For example Luke could be described as the Emperor's most powerful opponent despite being weaker than Vader and Gethzerion, because the former is his b@tch and the later is trapped on Dathomir.Even if we assume the HoT is the Outlander and other protags are either dead or AWOL, in either case not a threat to Valk.
Still, even if we intepret it in a combative sense, that wouldn't necessarily make him the most masterful in the Force.
A captured, surrounded and outgunned Hero of Tython is greater than anything else? Lol, ok. If that's the case then the Hero really is way better than anyone else.
Naw, the other protags only go AWOL after the Outlander gets captured. Doesn't get them out of the running for the quote.
Well "most powerful" is pretty easy to take in that way.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Seems unlikely, Arcann appears to come into his own before that, and no indication of such significant progression is given.Alternatively, Valkorion simply might not see his children as such a threat. More of nuisance.
It seems much more unlikely to me that Arcann wouldn't have improved in 5 years given how young he is. And given that a freshly de-carbonited Outlander can give him a good fight when they do, I'd say a fight between them 5 years before would have gone a lot differently.
But yeah, it could just be that. Not seen as opponents. Which is a good reason to just take them out of the equation. Doesn't apply to the rest of the protags.
Originally posted by NephthysWell as a forum headcanon, but there is a difference between that and using it as a way of reading accolades.
Well kind of....But I more meant the other members of this forum. Everyone's agreed to it.
A captured, surrounded and outgunned Hero of Tython is greater than anything else? Lol, ok. If that's the case then the Hero really is way better than anyone else.Lol I was referring to rather wider contexts than that, but fair, the other protags still appear to be present.Naw, the other protags only go AWOL after the Outlander gets captured. Doesn't get them out of the running for the quote.
Well "most powerful" is pretty easy to take in that way.Not when the HoT's main strength is as a warrior, if it had been Nox or the Barsenthor would you assumed them to be the most powerful lightsaber combatant as well as Force user?
It seems much more unlikely to me that Arcann wouldn't have improved in 5 years given how young he is. And given that a freshly de-carbonited Outlander can give him a good fight when they do, I'd say a fight between them 5 years before would have gone a lot differently.He doesn't look very young, and there is a difference between getting stronger and growing vastly more powerful, which is what you are suggesting.But yeah, it could just be that. Not seen as opponents. Which is a good reason to just take them out of the equation. Doesn't apply to the rest of the protags.
But yeah that would be my understanding.
(Posting what I said in the other recently made Kenobi/HoT thread)
Originally posted by Sinious
HoT's saber feats may not have visuals as explicit as Kenobi's, or he may even be inferior in feats, but we know for a fact that HoT becomes a battlemaster, meaning that he masters all lightsabers forms. Due to shitty showings of other battle masters, this title is usually considered to be worthless but the technical mastery that's tagged to it is undeniable, and HoT's best feats are resisting powerhouses, suggesting good if not great raw power for HoT himself, which is perfectly compatible with his accolades anyway, not to mention the 300 years old prophecy of his victory against Vitiate. So great technical mastery + amp + the fact that he is tailored for melee combat more than anything (being the JK class) is enough for me to put him above Kenobi tbh.