TMP Qui Gon Jinn vs ATOC Obi Wan

Started by |King Joker|2 pages

I think the only thing that really contradicts the notion that Obi-Wan by AotC isn't > Qui-Gon is Dooku's own statements.

When does Dooku compare them?

It's in the AotC comic, IIRC. Don't have the scan on me now, though.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
It's in the AotC comic, IIRC. Don't have the scan on me now, though.

When he said he expected more from Qui-Gon's padawan, or something like that? Yeah that doesn't mean Qui-Gon > AotC Kenobi, besides it's obviously Dun Möch.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
When he said he expected more from Qui-Gon's padawan, or something like that? Yeah that doesn't mean Qui-Gon > AotC Kenobi, besides it's obviously Dun Möch.
Yeah, I agree.

Seems to be retconned anyway:

http://www.readcomics.tv/images/manga/star-wars-episode-ii-attack-of-the-clones/4/24.jpg

Good. This helps me with arguing Luminara > Jinn. 🙂

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Luminara > Jinn. 🙂

Officially leaving KMC.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Officially leaving KMC.
Literally no one will miss you. 🙂

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Literally no one will miss you. 🙂

Obviously.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
It's in the AotC comic, IIRC. Don't have the scan on me now, though.

That's Dun Moch, and it doesn't mean Qui-Gon > Obi-Wan.

Originally posted by SunRazer
That's Dun Moch, and it doesn't mean Qui-Gon > Obi-Wan.
DMB tells me that it was Dooku's internal monologue, and not taunting, so how could it be Dun Möch?

Because the AotC comic doesn't have Dooku musing anything about Qui-Gon > Obi-Wan. He says to Obi-Wan's face that he expected more from Qui-Gon's padawan.

And as Zoltan said, it got retconned out of the comic anyway.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Because the AotC comic doesn't have Dooku musing anything about Qui-Gon > Obi-Wan. He says to Obi-Wan's face that he expected more from Qui-Gon's padawan.

And as Zoltan said, it got retconned out of the comic anyway.

Do you have the scan?

Edit: Nevermind, but it does look like Dooku's own internal musings rather than Dun Möch.

It's Dooku taunting him. How is that not Dun Moch?

We know Dooku was taunting Obi-Wan in that fight. Obviously everything he said there was to try and get under Obi-Wan's skin.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Good. This helps me with arguing Luminara > Jinn. 🙂
...No.

Originally posted by SunRazer
It's Dooku taunting him. How is that not Dun Moch?

We know Dooku was taunting Obi-Wan in that fight. Obviously everything he said there was to try and get under Obi-Wan's skin.

If Dooku was speaking to Kenobi, those "taunts" would've been in speech bubbles. I'm saying that those comments could likely have been an internal monologue rather than a taunt to rattle Kenobi.