Originally posted by abhilegendSo every feat now is just restricted to that particular writer making decades of continuity unusable. Oh abhi you just nuked Superman's history if we apply this same hypocritical logic across the board. Awful stuff.
Because the abilities these characters use are dependent on the writer.
Originally posted by Galan007
No, I am using an option that is a.) WELL within Thor's powerset, and b.) in-line with the forum rules, wherein characters operate to their best(this holds especially true with the nigh-omniscient type, like RKT.)You're baselessly assuming that because the Guardians didn't try to stop time against AM, he is immune to temporal manipulation all together. This is illogical on so many levels that it's hard to even entertain the idea. You're better than that. 👆
And again: when have the Guardians stopped time under Johns? You're acting like it's in character for them to do this against their opponents mid-battle.
You're free to disagree but let's not pretend that your argument is any more logical than mine.
You're also assuming that Thor will use a time stop based on an alternate King Thor, not to mention the fact that you're applying a no limits fallacy. Going by that logic, RKT could also use a time stop against COIE AM because that version of AM also never displayed anything to suggest that he could resist a time stop. Your argument applies only in case Thor applied the time stop against a being as powerful as SCW AM, which he didn't. Until then, your argument is as "baseless" as mine.
And it's not in character for Thor to use a time stop as well. Hell even regular Thor used to be able to time stop in the silver age before his mjolnir was depowered, and he has only ever used it once, so it's not in character for him either. Don't come at me with the omniscience excuse because Ganthet was also stated to have a consciousness that spans the entire cosmos.
Originally posted by operator616No, there is a SHARP difference between our arguments that you're ignoring: the Guardians fought AM in a comic book. Within those [in-universe] confines, characters' powers/abilities are, often times, neutered in accordance with the overall structure of the story, as well as the writer's intent. This is commonly called "CIS" or "WIS" (character/writer induced stupidity.) For example, Johns wasn't going to have the Guardians stop time against AM ftw!!!, because that's not how he wanted AM to be beaten. Simple.
You're free to disagree but let's not pretend that your argument is any more logical than mine.You're also assuming that Thor will use a time stop based on an alternate King Thor, not to mention the fact that you're applying a no limits fallacy. Going by that logic, RKT could also use a time stop against COIE AM because that version of AM also never displayed anything to suggest that he could resist a time stop. Your argument applies only in case Thor applied the time stop against a being as powerful as SCW AM, which he didn't. Until then, your argument is as "baseless" as mine.
And it's not in character for Thor to use a time stop as well. Hell even regular Thor used to be able to time stop in the silver age before his mjolnir was depowered, and he has only ever used it once, so it's not in character for him either. Don't come at me with the omniscience excuse because Ganthet was also stated to have a consciousness that spans the entire cosmos.
Here on KMC, however, CIS/WIS does not apply. Here on KMC, RKT *would* be free to use the full extent of his abilities -- so would the Guardians, for that matter. And on that note, we both know time-stops are well within the power of the RKT/Odinforce. Not sure why you're all of the sudden feigning ignorance just because the logic disagrees with you this time, but like I said: you're better than that. 👆
Your rationale, however, is as follows:
"The Guardians have stopped time at *some* point in their decadeS-worth of history. They didn't try to stop time against AM in that comic, so he must be immune to temporal manipulation all together."
...As though characters always use the full extent of their powers every single time they are written in a comic book, and CIS/WIS is never in play. C'mon, you know better. srsly
In summary: there is a HUGE difference between comic book battles, and versus forum battles. I would have thought you'd have realized that by now.
Originally posted by Galan007
No, there is a SHARP difference between our arguments that you're ignoring: the Guardians fought AM in a comic book. Within those [in-universe] confines, characters' powers/abilities are, often times, neutered in accordance with the overall structure of the story, as well as the writer's intent. This is commonly called "CIS" or "WIS" (character/writer induced stupidity.) For example, Johns wasn't going to have the Guardians stop time against AM ftw!!!, because that's not how he wanted AM to be beaten. Simple.Here on KMC, however, CIS/WIS does not apply. Here on KMC, RKT *would* be free to use the full extent of his abilities -- so would the Guardians, for that matter. And on that note, we both know time-stops are well within the power of the RKT/Odinforce. Not sure why you're all of the sudden feigning ignorance just because the logic disagrees with you this time, but like I said: you're better than that. 👆
Your rationale, however, is as follows:
"The Guardians have stopped time at *some* point in their decadeS-worth of history. They didn't try to stop time against AM in that comic, so he must be immune to temporal manipulation all together."...As though characters always use the full extent of their powers every single time they are written in a comic book, and CIS/WIS is never in play. C'mon, you know better. srsly
In summary: there is a HUGE difference between comic book battles, and versus forum battles. I would have thought you'd have realized that by now.
Originally posted by abhilegend
It isn't? Where did RKT used Time stop?