adult franklin vs mystics
all fights take place in space, all entities including franklin operate as though in their home realms. how far does he makes it?
1. mephisto
2. odin
3. dormammu
4. cyttorak
5. chthon
6. vishanti
7. shuma
8. zom (classic)
order may be arguable--these mystic demon types are notoriously tough to gauge--so feel free to adjust if you feel it truly warranted. how many of them can franky take down if he's willing to kill to do it?
Originally posted by Galan007
I see him getting to at least #7. He could very well clear, depending on where you think he sits relative to said Mystics.
Originally posted by "Id"
Clears it
Originally posted by zopzopGalactus himself feared a battle with CHILD Franklin -- to the point that he fled earth ASAP to avoid a conflict with him:
No way is he getting past the Vishanti (ONE member of that group was giving Galactus a hard time)
Now if you have additional feats to help solidify your stance, I'm all ears. 👆
Originally posted by Galan007
Galactus himself feared a battle with CHILD Franklin -- to the point that he fled earth ASAP to avoid a conflict with him:
http://i.imgur.com/Tb7lPfL.jpg
...And adult Franklin was a good deal more powerful than his youthful counterpart. So I'm not quite as confident as you are that the Vishanti win just because one of them gave Galactus a 'hard time'. /shrugNow if you have additional feats to help solidify your stance, I'm all ears. 👆
It's Hickman being Hickman.
PS, proof Adult Franklin is more powerful than Child Franklin?
Originally posted by zopzopHuh?
Galactus feared a fight with CHILD Franklin, yet went on to do better against a common foe (the Rogue Celestials) than ADULT Franklin did. How does that make sense?
-Adult Franklin was fighting the 3 remaining Mad Celestials simultaneously, and doing well against them(though he ultimately would have fallen.)
-He then destroyed one of the Celestials.
-He then resurrected Galactus.
-Galactus then destroyed another Celestial.
-Galactus then used a blast to pierce the final Celestial's armor.
-Franklin then flew into the Celestial and detonated -- destroying both of them in the process.
-Galactus then payed back the favor, and resurrected Franklin.
IOW, Franklin's performance against the Mad Celestials in that scene was > Galactus'(Frank killed 2; Galactus killed 1)... Especially when we consider that Franklin was already weakened [to some degree] by the time Galactus entered the fray, given that he was initially fighting the 3 Celestials solo.
Originally posted by zopzopEven if you believe they had the same amount of raw power to pull from, child Franklin was the equivalent of a Jedi Padawan, whereas adult Franklin was akin to a Jedi Master. So either way, adult Franklin would shit-stomp in a fight because he was simply WAY better with his abilities.
PS, proof Adult Franklin is more powerful than Child Franklin?
However, I do believe adult Franklin WAS more powerful than child Franklin, due to Galactus' own words:
http://i.imgur.com/2lOoTGx.jpg
"I never imagined this is what you could become..."
srug
Originally posted by Galan007
Huh?-Adult Franklin was fighting the 3 remaining Mad Celestials simultaneously, and doing well against them(though he ultimately would have fallen.)
-He then destroyed one of the Celestials.
-He then resurrected Galactus.
-Galactus then destroyed another Celestial.
-Galactus then used a blast to pierce the final Celestial's armor.
-Franklin then flies into the Celestial and detonates -- destroying both of them in the process.
-Galactus then pays back the favor, and resurrects Franklin.IOW, Franklin's performance against the Mad Celestials was > Galactus'... Especially when we consider that Franklin was already weakened [to some degree] by the time Galactus entered the fray, given that he was initially fighting the 3 Celestials solo.
GALACTUS took on FOUR MCs and KOed/Killed one. They obviously thought they couldn't handle him the way the fight was going and they merged into Voltron Celestial and KOed him.
Adult Franklin entered the fight after the Celestials bloodied themselves against Galactus. He couldn't even handle 3 (it was stated he would have lost).
If he didn't have the bubble of Child Franklin's power to rez Galactus he would have been killed.
Galactus > Franklin.
Originally posted by Galan007
^ Um, you're forgetting the fact that Galactus was massively AMPED when he initially confronted the 4 Mad Celestials. srsly
Galactus > Franklin. By a healthy margin too.
Seriously, zop. Don't act purposefully obtuse because you hate admitting when you're wrong. It's ridiculous.
Galactus specifically stated that he consumed 4 worlds in preparation for his battle with the Celestials:
So no, that ISN'T something he normally does. In fact, that is the only time he's ever been stated to have done so on panel.... And that is certainly NOT his 'average' powerlevel by any stretch of the imagination.
Galactus after devouring 4 planets(ie. hugely amped) > Franklin.
Average Galactus < Franklin.
Those are the *actual* facts. The evidence I posted speaks for itself. 👆
Originally posted by Galan007
Seriously, zop. Don't act purposefully obtuse because you hate admitting when you're wrong. It's ridiculous.Galactus specifically stated that he consumed 4 worlds in preparation for his battle with the Celestials:
So no, that ISN'T something he normally does. In fact, that is the only time he's ever been stated to have done so on panel.... And that is certainly NOT his 'average' powerlevel by any stretch of the imagination.
Galactus after devouring 4 planets(ie. hugely amped) > Franklin.
Average Galactus < Franklin.Those are the *actual* facts. 👆
Franklin can't tap into a well of power like Galactus can or he would have before he confronted the MCs.
Galactus > Franklin.
Lol, you must just be trolling -- no one is this daft.
If Galactus cognizantly makes himself more powerful than normal in preparation for a battle, then yes, that IS an amp... That is literally the textbook definition of an amp, ffs. 😂
That said, Galactus ONLY becomes more powerful than Franklin IF he amps his power by consuming more worlds than normal prior to the fight. At his average levels, however, Galactus FEARS Franklin -- he explicitly stated as much.
The evidence I have posted is self-explanatory. Simple facts are simple. 👆
Originally posted by Galan007
Lol, you must just be trolling -- no one is this daft.If Galactus cognizantly makes himself more powerful than normal in preparation for a battle, then yes, that IS an amp... That is literally the textbook definition of an amp, ffs. 😂
That said, Galactus ONLY becomes more powerful than Franklin IF he amps his power by consuming more worlds than normal prior to the fight. At his average levels, however, Galactus FEARS Franklin -- he explicitly stated as much.
The evidence I have posted is self-explanatory. Simple facts are simple. 👆
ANYTIME HE WANTS TO HE CAN DEVOUR MORE THAN WHAT HE REQUIRES TO LIVE. Do you agree or disagree with this statement?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And anytime he wants, Superman can sun-dip. That is his powerset - he takes in sunlight and turns it into Kryp powers.So Sundipping is not an amp. On average, Superman is at OWAW levels👆
Originally posted by zopzopCAPS LOCK!!!1!1!11!
Are you trying to be argumentative? What Galactus did isn't an amp. He PURPOSELY only eats as much as he needs to survive.ANYTIME HE WANTS TO HE CAN DEVOUR MORE THAN WHAT HE REQUIRES TO LIVE. Do you agree or disagree with this statement?
Do you realize that what you're referring to is called "amping"? It's literally the textbook definition of the word. Are you seriously this stupid, or are you just f*cking around? 😂
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Originally posted by zopzopAnd Superman sundipping doesn't constitute an amp in zop's world?
Exactly. Superman doesn't take more than he needs to do his day to day activities. He can take up a notch or two whenever he wants. Can Shazam dial it up to 11 like that? Can Martian Manhunter?
My God. Please stop embarrassing yourself. facepalm
Originally posted by Galan007
CAPS LOCK!!!1!1!11!Do you realize that what you're referring to is called "amping"? It's literally the textbook definition of the word. Are you seriously this stupid, or are you just f*cking around? 😂
Sundipping by Superman and Planet devouring by Galactus are within their powersets. They can do it whenever they want, they CHOSE not to. They can increase their power to whatever their upper limit is at any time.
