Originally posted by Darth ThorYou mean the beastly TK that he only gets from a rage amp, that he can't replicate on a regular basis?
Same in Dark Disciple. She's fully adept in the use of 1 Saber.Also Savage didn't even unleash his Beastly Tk in that fight.
Adept isn't good enough to keep up with Savage.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Nightsister fight? 😬 (Dooku was blinded and Ventress had help, but still.)The only time Dooku really ever stomped her was in OCW and DD, IIRC.
I'm talking Ventress versus them one-on-one.
I don't think you know what "stomping" is.
Its ending the fight quickly and effortlessly.
You seem to have also forgotten the 2v1 with Savage, where despite having aid she performed pitifully against Dooku (i.e. She charged at him and he floored her within five seconds, he attacked her and floored her within five seconds, and she failed to cut him down for an entire 15 second period of time where he was unarmed not using the Force to keep her at bay and barely retreating).
Or the 1v1 that followed where she attacked him from behind and he immediately drove her into a desperate retreat where she was literally leaping and running away from him for 10-20 seconds before he oneshotted her with the Force.
Or in Dark Rendezvous where he just flat out telekineically dominated her without much effort.
Originally posted by EmperordmbFair enough.
So your singular example of Ventress holding her own against Dooku is when Dooku was blind and drugged, and Ventress was invisible... with help from two other invisible nightsisters who happened to be the best warriors in the clan... and he still ultimately overpowered them. You aren't making your case very well.You seem to have also forgotten the 2v1 with Savage, where despite having aid she performed pitifully against Dooku (i.e. She charged at him and he floored her within five seconds, he attacked her and floored her within five seconds, and she failed to cut him down for an entire 15 second period of time where he was unarmed not using the Force to keep her at bay and barely retreating).
Or the 1v1 that followed where she attacked him from behind and he immediately drove her into a desperate retreat where she was literally leaping and running away from him for 10-20 seconds before he oneshotted her with the Force.
Or in Dark Rendezvous where he just flat out telekineically dominated her without much effort.
Conceded.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
You mean the beastly TK that he only gets from a rage amp, that he can't replicate on a regular basis?
Really was this a one-off rage amp?:
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Or this?:
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and again at 52:00 and again at 53:28?
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Adept isn't good enough to keep up with Savage.
Yeah because he's =/> her.
She regularly fights off 2 opponents with her Dual Sabers, so is used to fighting off one opponent with one saber.
She also seems to be at her peak in DD, where again she's perfectly happy using 1 single Saber as her primary weapon.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
She was losing.First when Kenobi needed to save her by passing her 2nd Saber. Then again when she agreed with Kenobi that they were outmatched and needed to run.
Only at the point where Savage disarmed her via sheer physical strength by dodging one of her own strikes, which forced her to overextend herself.
And then without a lightsaber she proceeds to dodge all of his attacks and land several physical strikes. Obviously she was going to lose without a saber, so Kenobi gave her one.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
If you think she'd do better with 2 Sabers that's fine, but there's nothing to suggest that'd make such a huge difference that she'd suddenly go from losing to being superior to him.
Like I said, she was losing due to overextending at one point and Savage landing a physical strike. Other than that, the fight between her and Savage seemed fairly well-balanced, with both trading blows and her even stopping an overhand attack with increased momentum from his leap.
They were only outmatched because Kenobi was barely himself in that fight, being exhausted and injured, and Asajj was placed somewhat out of her element without Jar'Kai.
With Jar'Kai, her defensive coverage is greater and her striking speed is faster. She's overall a better warrior with dual sabers, and can be argued as superior to Savage.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
And let me remind you Savage didn't even utilize his beastly TK in that fight.
Probably because Ventress has similar, beastly TK.