Arcann and the Outlander vs DE Luke and Sedriss

Also whats up with Urs and El both going "without evidence for him to be this good, he isn't that good", lol.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Also whats up with Urs and El both going "without evidence for him to be this good, he isn't that good", lol.

Originally posted by Nephthys
You mean, when the Outlander beat Arcann? At the end of KotFE?

Yes.

No, I'm referring to both of you saying Arcann isn't Vader level as long as we ignore this certain piece of evidence.

Ragdolling the protags means nothing if the protags hasn't done anything, ditto with scaling off of the others. Likewise, the barrier feat was against a weakened Valkorion.

As for Jadus scaling, we could also all scale the modern era from padawan Anakin's deadnaught feat.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Ragdolling the protags means nothing if the protags hasn't done anything, ditto with scaling off of the others. Likewise, the barrier feat was against a weakened Valkorion.

As for Jadus scaling, we could also all scale the modern era from padawan Anakin's deadnaught feat.

Um..... I'm pretty sure.... the protags have done things...... 😕 And I'm also pretty sure Vaylin and Senya have as well. All the more impressive for Valkorion, since it was still immensely powerful lightning that blasted out of the back of the building and took out several ships with its mere cast off.

That feat is overwanked, its not like it wasn't floating or anything. Regardless it was an OCW feat. Try scaling off Rivi Anu if you want for all I care.

Lol so all OCW feats can be dismissed just 'cause?

What has the Hero done that is more impressive than Kota's space station busting? And we know how Vader vs. Kota looked...

As for the lightning, it wasn't actually destroying ships, it was just killing the pilots.

They should be taken with a healthy dose of salt and skeptocism, yes.

Lol, you know perfectly well what the Hero's done and she ain't ****in' Kota.

oh i see shit feat then durrr. That level of power with just the excess is still easily among the greatest lightning feats and Arcann was blocking it.

And why don't we do the same with Jadus's, when we see him lose to non-Force sensitives? Seems like a double standard to me.

She isn't Galen Marek, and not in a good way, so I don't see how ragdolling her puts Arcann on Vader's level. You know, because Vader f*cks up Starkiller and then grows stronger to RotJ.

How is killing pilots a great feat? How is it more impressive than Vader taking Galen's suicide blast, or heck tanking any of Starkiller's attacks, given that he can bust a frigate?

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
So was Vader in ESB. Is this supposed to mean something?

ESB Luke did get hits in on Vader, yeah. But perhaps more precisely, DE Luke was just Force harmony from a barely trained Leia away from handily defeating the most powerful sith lord in history, more powerful than the Valkorion that oneshotted Arcann.

Which he could also do to Luke. Maybe it's just hiding somewhere, but for the life of me, I just don't see the point you're trying to make.

You seriously think that Arcann would be a better fight for Wankatine than Luke?

Anakin was also involved in the Force Harmony, for what it's worth.

I meant for the duel.