Star Wars Debating (2016)

Hord's the best ancient duelist from the time of Ajunta Pall to Naga Sadow, yeah.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Hord's the best ancient duelist from the time of Ajunta Pall to Naga Sadow, yeah.

She says "The Greatest Duelists of the Sith Lords."

The context makes clear she's referring to the ancient Sith Lords. She wouldn't have any gauge on the lightsaber abilities of Freedon Nadd, Exar Kun, or Darth Revan in his prime.

Would she really have a gauge on any of the ancient duelists, though? 😬

Avellone said she would. mmm

But realistically speaking, is there any more reason to believe she'd have a real, in-depth understanding of Hord's dueling abilities than one of her own ex-apprentice's?

Nope.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
But realistically speaking, is there any more reason to believe she'd have a real, in-depth understanding of Hord's dueling abilities than one of her own ex-apprentice's?

Very likely that she found Tulaks Text on Korriban or something? The same one revan gave to Uthar

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
But realistically speaking, is there any more reason to believe she'd have a real, in-depth understanding of Hord's dueling abilities than one of her own ex-apprentice's?

👆 This.

What Avellone states in his emails isn't canon.

Originally posted by Azronger
What Avellone states in his emails isn't canon.

Yes, it's in the context of the Ancient Sith, so it doesn't include Revan or Kun.

Originally posted by Azronger
What Avellone states in his emails isn't canon.

👆 The difference between his personal opinions and the actual, published work is that the latter was vetted by other people in the creative process, carefully deliberated on, and then given the stamp by Lucasfilms. Otherwise one author could publish a random novel and then say that a character in it is secretly Barrack Obama.

It's not canon, but it's worth more than a random forum user's opinion. This sort of stuff can only be disproved if you have the material to suggest otherwise. Which is why you can deny "clarifications" like Veitch's explanation of the cause of Force Storms. Otherwise, I'd take an author's clarification of things over a random forum user's opinion, as I said.

Maybe if the forum user's case is well-substantiated (though not directly proven) and extremely well-articulated, I'll take it over an author's shabby, dubious explanation.

Didn't Avellone point out she knew her stuff because of the various Sith holocrons in her possession? Still, not necessarily the most concrete of evidence.

Yes, he did say she read the Sith holocrons in Atris' chamber, but the game already reveals that, so it's hardly groundbreaking.

Besides, nobody here seems to think Atris' holocrons are of any worth whatsoever, lol.

Originally posted by SunRazer
It's not canon, but it's worth more than a random forum user's opinion. This sort of stuff can only be disproved if you have the material to suggest otherwise. Which is why you can deny "clarifications" like Veitch's explanation of the cause of Force Storms. Otherwise, I'd take an author's clarification of things over a random forum user's opinion, as I said.

Maybe if the forum user's case is well-substantiated (though not directly proven) and extremely well-articulated, I'll take it over an author's shabby, dubious explanation.

It's only worth something if you buy into authorial intent, which I don't.

Originally posted by Azronger
It's only worth something if you buy into authorial intent, which I don't.

Originally posted by Azronger
It's only worth something if you buy into authorial intent, which I don't.

If you don't care about what the author intended to convey, then why even read the book? 😕

Originally posted by NewGuy01
If you don't care about what the author intended to convey, then why even read the book? 😕

Example: Kevin J. Anderson saying that Exar Kun is a good fight for Palpatine, or saying that Hord is the best Ancient Duelist ever.