KotOR vs KotOR II (TSLRCM)

Originally posted by Solar Power
I thought the droid planet mod explained that force bonds can be broken if one of the two people in the bond turned to the DS, so I thought Kreia's act of turning into Darth Traya broke the bond between them. That does leave another plothole though of how Traya could threaten the Exile if the Exile already knew this.

M4-78 was scrapped early and most of it is fan-made.

Anyway, the Bond is clearly still in effect in the DS version, since in the Enclave scene, Kreia stabs herself with a lightsaber and you feel the pain, not to mention that she can drain your strength through that Bond.

At the end of that scene, Kreia goes on to say that their Bond remains. There is a version of it where Kreia claims she cut the Bond, but that's only in the game files, not the game, I believe.

Originally posted by Unbowed
It's never actually established that the Exile believes the explanation Kreia offers. What prompts the search for the last Jedi is the recording of the Exile's trial. The Exile sees the Council discussing her condition, so she becomes aware of the fact that they know something happened to her.

The Exile asks each of the Masters why you were cut off from the Force and why she were exiled, so it would seem that you do believe her.

Beyond that, it's up to how you RP the character. The Exile can seek the Jedi so that they can heal her(or so she believes), or for help against the Sith, or for revenge, or not search for them at all(i.e: you go to Nar Shaddaa for information on the bounty, or to Dantooine for crystals/relics).

That doesn't matter. The fact that the Exile believes the Council cut her off from the Force is part of the motivation for the whole questioning/revenge process.

But even if the Exile did believe her, you can chalk it up to a combination of a decade passing, emotional trauma, Kreia's skill as a manipulator and the recording, which indicates the Council is aware something was wrong with her and chose to keep her in the dark.

There's no reason for you to forget what caused you to lose your connection to the Force. A decade passing makes no difference. People remember the loss of limbs for life, let alone the loss of an entire sense (and the Force is more than that). Emotional trauma plays into my point - you're not going to forget it. The Exile didn't see the recording until after Telos IV, whereas she fell for Kreia's claims right after Peragus.

As for Kreia's manipulations, that's part of my point. The Exile shouldn't have any doubts about the nature of her loss.

There's also the issue that the Exile is subconsciously aware that Kreia is playing her, as evidenced by her visions in Ludo Kreesh's tomb and her final conversation with Kreia(in the tomb, not the game).

Not necessarily. You can say "you've been manipulating me all along!" to the vision, and right after returning to the Ebon Hawk, it's back to normal with Kreia. Presumably, the Exile thought that it was just a vision and not much more. Especially seeing as the Exile sees a corrupted version of themselves in the final room, which lends credence to the notion (or at least, the Exile's possible belief) that the visions would be naturally corrupted and dark-sided in nature. There's just not enough of a follow-up to the vision to suggest that she really suspected Kreia of any of her shenanigans. Heck, Sion outright warns her about Kreia, yet she still seems to refuse to believe that.

Not to mention that numerous in-game dialogue, as well as supplementary material, supports the notion that the Exile had no idea who Kreia was or that she was playing her.

All in all, I wouldn't call it a plot hole. Just the self-deception that all people engage in, especially in complex/tragic situations. It's easy to see someone else's flaws, not so easy to see your own.

I'm not convinced of that. Something as shocking as being cut off from the Force, and to an unprecedented extent as well, shouldn't be difficult to remember at all.

Perhaps you can argue that it was down to Kreia's manipulation, as opposed to a plot hole, but if so, that's weak writing all the same. Unless you think Traya was using TP of some sort to influence the Exile's mind at the same time, but then you're reaching into the grounds of speculation. Which I suppose is acceptable when answering something like this, where we're basically drawing on our headcanons anyway.