Darth Tenebrous vs Darth Vader - (POLL)

Seemingly more powerful is a vague statement. We don't know how much more powerful prime Plagueis was than Tenebrous, and I don't have Vader too far below Plagueis.

I don't deny that a Tenebrous vs Vader fight is ultimately subjective, but we do have a relative idea of how powerful Tenebrous is.

Also, what is "not too far below Plagueis"?

If Vader is 80% of ROTJ Sidious then I'd have Plagueis at maybe 85%. Considering TPM Sidious and Plaguies are pretty even and Sidious grew a good amount in power between TPM and ROTJ

Well, we have no idea what a percent of Sidious' power is. So the stats are pretty meaningless to me.

And we have no idea how much the power jump was between Tenebrous and Plagueis, so I guess it's all just speculation then.

Shitting all over Starkiller puts Vader close to Plagueis. Tenebrous joins Bane in the grave.

Originally posted by Rebel95
And we have no idea how much the power jump was between Tenebrous and Plagueis, so I guess it's all just speculation then.

A fight like this is almost entirely subjective, yeah.

It's simply a case of Tenny having more going for him, Banite scaling combined with his proximity to Plagueis leaves Vader struggling to keep up. And I don't really think Vader compares to the late Banite Sith at all, nor do meaningless stats from Lucas make for a compelling argument in that regard.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Shitting all over Starkiller puts Vader close to Plagueis. Tenebrous joins Bane in the grave.

Whilst Lightning and speed/agility are pretty badly overblown as Vader's weaknesses, Tenebrous does have those advantage nevertheless, and with respects to general ability, it isn't hard to see Tenebrous being on Vader's level at all, if not better.

Personally, I see Vader being closer to Bane than to Plagueis, so Tenebrous is indeed superior.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Personally, I see Vader being closer to Bane than to Plagueis, so Tenebrous is indeed superior.

Bane isn't as bad as he's made out to be here, lol.

And I do have Plagueis pretty high - even higher than Vitiate, for what it's worth.

Razer. I know the preceding lines were weaker and thus the gaps between them smaller but you really think the gap between the one end line generation was bigger then 30 generations before it?

Doesn't apply to Vader.