Meetra Surik vs. Darth Plagueis

Started by The Ellimist2 pages

The publisher's blurb would be questionable if it were just thrown out there in contradiction to a bunch of other evidence, but the reverse is true:

- Sidious and Plagueis both honestly believe what the blurb confirms
- they both cause an unprecedented shift in the balance of the Force through sheer meditation
- we know that Sidious by RotS is the most powerful sith in all of history; it's not much of a stretch that his predecessor, who was his equal just a decade before, was the previous

Originally posted by The Ellimist
"in my eyes" vs. their presence on published material approved by Lucasfilms?

Yes, The Insider vs series has that, too. Yet, we tend to look at that differently for reasons.

Publisher summary are mostly made to grab attention by using flowery wording, hyperbolic terms and such. I seriously doubt any legit thought are put into the details.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
[B]The fight goes something like this.

DBZ suckz.

It's Super, not Z. And the new villain is goddamn amazing.

Beerus stomps Silver Surfer instantly. 🙂

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Yes, The Insider vs series has that, too. Yet, we tend to look at that differently for reasons.

Publisher ummary are mostly made to grab attention by using flowery wording and such. I seriously doubt any legit thought are put into the details.

The insider vs. series is a what-if, and therefore infinities; even if this weren't the case, they could still be argued against from a larger body of other evidence. The problem here is that you are dismissing a publisher's blurb that just states more definitively what Plagueis already claimed in the novel, and what we could already guess from RotS Sidious's power and their Force unbalancing, just because you personally don't like it.

And thinking about how much "legit thought" they put in would be grounds to toss out TPM as non-canon.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
The insider vs. series is a what-if, and therefore infinities;

Yeah, the fight itself is because cross era battles aren't possible, lal. The conclusion themselves isn't as it's directly broken down, and analyzed by respected individuals in the Lucasfilm group under the license and consent of the aforesaid company.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Beven if this weren't the case, they could still be argued against from a larger body of other evidence.

I'm well aware, yeah. But that's neither here, nor there from my point.

Originally posted by The Ellimist The problem here is that you are dismissing a publisher's blurb that just states more definitively what Plagueis already claimed in the novel, and what we could already guess from RotS Sidious's power and their Force unbalancing, just because you personally don't like it.

Me liking or disliking a quote has nothing to do with anything, lal. Unlike you, I don't have an not-so-discreet agenda to raise the PT/NJO era above all the of the rest, 'cause. I simply find the nature of such blurbs to be dubious, especially when the intent is strictly promotional purposes that uses hyperbolic text and flowery wording to grab attention. Especially when the canocity of them has never been confirmed either way. But, if his feats and holistic implication already points to that fact, why do you debate so religiously for the blurb?

Out of curiosity, why do you guys think the quote only refers to up to Plagueis time? Where was that implication ever implied?

"Where was that implication ever implied?" 🙂

Anyway, the implication would be that it only refers up to Plagueis' time since it's an in-universe quote.