Is it a good use of energy to try and become proficient enough in legends for debate?
Or should I just focus on canon material?
Right now I'm trying to read all of the legends books post RotS—some for personal pleasure and some b/c they have good debate info. I feel that legends is going to slowly die as the older folks pass on (not literally) and it will in a way become useless in debates b/c fewer will be familiar with it.
Should I just try to become good with canon?
Last year I would have just advised you to become knowledgable in Canon but at the rate they're putting new material out usable for debating material ( far too slowly ) I wouldn't advise it. I'd focus on a certain character or era and expand out from there in Legends.
Unless you're a slow researcher. Then by all means, go for Canon.
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
SW debating is not a good use of energy in any shape or form.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Last year I would have just advised you to become knowledgable in Canon but at the rate they're putting new material out usable for debating material ( far too slowly ) I wouldn't advise it. I'd focus on a certain character or era and expand out from there in Legends.Unless you're a slow researcher. Then by all means, go for Canon.
Maybe focusing on just one era is a better choice.
Do you still believe canon debating material isn't going to produce itself faster anytime soon? Wouldn't the new movies change that?
Originally posted by cs_zoltanBut you need to know about your opponent to make true counter arguments, don't you? I may not care much about Mace, but I need to understand him in order to debate him vs Dooku for example.
Don't debate stuff you don't care about. Read/debate about era/character you'd like to. It's that simple.
Originally posted by Kurk
But you need to know about your opponent to make true counter arguments, don't you? I may not care much about Mace, but I need to understand him in order to debate him vs Dooku for example.
Nah, ask for quotes and sources. I haven't read a single NJO book but I'm still capable of arguing against characters of that era by simply reading a few pages around quotes that get posted. No need for me to read everything about a specific character.
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Nah, ask for quotes and sources. I haven't read a single NJO book but I'm still capable of arguing against characters of that era by simply reading a few pages around quotes that get posted. No need for me to read everything about a specific character.
👆 Your general debating ability is probably more important, which extends to rhetoric, argumentation and also knowing how to extract context from people's evidence/not being gullible.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Zoltan's on point with da advice tbh.
Good point Mr. Zoltan. I think I'll switch to focusing on select characters.
But that of course is a recipe for inherit bias in any debate so what's the point if you turn into EmperorDMB and say that Bane could defeat Mace and Vader together.
Liking a character and hence arguing for it doesn't necessary make you biased. You can also use your knowledge to argue why (s)he'd lose a matchup.
I say why put effort into arguing for a character you don't care about? I certainly don't like SW debating that much. Just don't go overboard and become obsessed with them winning. There's no shame in your fav made up characters losing to other made up characters.
Originally posted by Kurk
ikr, I'm surprised he's not telling me to drink bleach or take potassium cyanide.Good point Mr. Zoltan. I think I'll switch to focusing on select characters.
But that of course is a recipe for inherit bias in any debate so what's the point if you turn into EmperorDMB and say that Bane could defeat Mace and Vader together.
He puts Bane > Caedus.