Vitiate - Shedding Limitations

Started by Beniboybling8 pages

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Hot.

Love your sig and avi <3

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Dayumn.

What is so appealing about Darth Vader ?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Ruffling is a word.

I am aware. You understand the phrase is "rustling" though correct?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
To fix both of our issues, a rule can be established that feats cannot overrule older feats (unless a retcon is established), but feats can overrule older accolades. That way, consistency can be met, but we're also as up-to-date with the current viewpoints and lore as possible.

Ant, it's one thing arguing for a position, and if you want to argue for this one so be it. But acting like you can establish some objective rule everyone else must follow seems weirdly pretentious to be honest.

That's the second time now that someone referred to that post, which I erased in favor of a new, better argument.

Absolutely no one has mentioned that one though, making me inclined to believe their is no rebuttal.

Not that I can't establish objective rules anyone must follow anyway though.

After new evidence showing that Valkorion may have actually lost to the Outlander, and Beni's gif of Arcann getting kicked and beaten up by a random person with a blaster, should we recontexualize the two emperors closer to Sirak than to a superior like, say, Caedus?

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Still think that's the dumbest thing ever.

But anyway...I get that, but at the same time with all these power increases and what not...I feel like that claim just doesn't make sense. Why should he fear anyone, if he has all this power? Going by all these quotes, no one should have come close to killing any of his bodies.


Abeloth, in spite of incredible power at her disposal, lost many avatars in battles. Those losses eventually weakened her to the extent that she could not longer maintain her presence.

No matter how strong a character is, he is likely to experience setbacks in wars and/or confrontations.

Originally posted by Trocity
What blurbs does Bane have? The only one I've seen doesn't say anything of the sort.

And yeah, Vitiate/Valkorion is obviously superior to Plagueis. However, Sidious remains the one True Emperor.


Here:

Originally posted by Beniboybling

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Originally posted by Petrus
I'm actually curious as to what effin blurb LeG is talking about tbh.

See above

Thanks for conceding that Bane > Valkorion. 👆

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Thanks for conceding that Bane > Valkorion. 👆

Sorry, no concession there.

Marketing blurbs should be taken with a grain of salt.

I heard that's not Legends canon though. But if it is well we have 5 Sith with quotes saying they surpassed those before them:

Palpatine
Plaguies
Bane
Valkorion
Exar Kun

Though I know no one will actually agree with this proposal, one can make somewhat of a chain using this. Only problem might be Kun/Valkorion, since Kun is said to be stronger than all Sith before him and technically post Nathema Vitiate is before Kun.

I could buy that Exar Kun > Vitiate right after Nathema.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Sorry, no concession there.

Marketing blurbs should be taken with a grain of salt.

Because you say so?

How does this holocron put him over Plagueis? Heck, I'd say Severing Sith Lords at such an age is more impressive than creating uber-Holocrons.

I thought it was common sense that Vitiate/Valkorion was above Plagueis; guess not. Revan is arguable I guess (but I maintain my Revan>Plagueis stance.)

Originally posted by The Merchant
I heard that's not Legends canon though. But if it is well we have 5 Sith with quotes saying they surpassed those before them:

Palpatine
Plaguies
Bane
Valkorion
Exar Kun

Though I know no one will actually agree with this proposal, one can make somewhat of a chain using this. Only problem might be Kun/Valkorion, since Kun is said to be stronger than all Sith before him and technically post Nathema Vitiate is before Kun.

Exar Kun could take novel Vitiate, yeah.

Originally posted by darthbane77
I thought it was common sense that Vitiate/Valkorion was above Plagueis; guess not. Revan is arguable I guess (but I maintain my Revan>Plagueis stance.)

It's not "common sense". It's just an opinion.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Here:

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Oh you thought that was a blurb? Sorry no, that's from the Star Wars Fact File. 😂

So this is the thread responsible for the recent memetic Holocron shenanigans. Good stuff.

Originally posted by SunRazer
How does this holocron put him over Plagueis? Heck, I'd say Severing Sith Lords at such an age is more impressive than creating uber-Holocrons.

Well, I mean, he was 10. That being said, source for Vitiate personally constructing the holocron/prison thing?