Novel Revan = Novel Vitiate (Explained!)

Originally posted by Nephthys
Not in this case. It isn't some unique wavepattern you need to resonate with for max effects, there's absolutely no examples of this. It's just another bullshit fanon theory of yours.

Lol, he didn't? It doesn't say whether he did or didn't, just like it didn't say that Vitiate did or didn't. Nice of you to continue assuming though.

That said its also worth noting that Vitiate is far more seated in the dark side than Revan in general, and that prior to this Revan describes himself as a "champion of light."

Originally posted by Beniboybling
That said its also worth noting that Vitiate is far more seated in the dark side than Revan in general, and that prior to this Revan describes himself as a "champion of light."

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Originally posted by Beniboybling
And I never suggested anything of the sort, but yes, Vitiate would have been far more seated in it, so the logic stands regardless.

It's not a chair, lol. Whie got empowered by Vjun regardless of how "seated" he was. Your logic holds nothing except your own hopes and dreams.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
What? It's literally stated that he was gathering a storm of "pure dark side energy", Revan doesn't do anything remotely similar. Try reading the book next time.

That said its also worth noting that Vitiate is far more seated in the dark side than Revan in general, and that prior to this Revan describes himself as a "champion of light."

Yes..... because Vitiate uses the darkside. It's kind of his thing. That doesn't indicate him utilising the nexus. And like I've said, Whie and Anakin got empowered despite not actually using the darkside at the time. By that example, Revan could easily tap into it like they did, especially since he actually uses the darkside normally. IIRC his darkside energy was called pure as well. At the very most there would be a irrelevant difference. But since it wasn't remotely highlighted as being a factor in the novel, it was obviously not significant in the least.

Revan uses the darkside freely. Geez, come on. 🙄

In fairness, it seems like KotoR-Revan Revan is more of a light-sider and only uses the dark side in those brief moments when he's calling upon both sides of the Force, like that "twin rivers" power. Otherwise, he's primarily a light sider.

In terms of personality, but after regaining his memories he didn't exactly get the best chances to show over his powerset. The point is that he's still perfectly capable of using it, far moreso than Whie was.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It's not a chair, lol. Whie got empowered by Vjun regardless of how "seated" he was. Your logic holds nothing except your own hopes and dreams.

And I might bring up the term 'degrees' here, but you'd probably think I was talking about the weather.

Yes..... because Vitiate uses the darkside. It's kind of his thing.

That doesn't indicate him utilising the nexus. And like I've said, Whie and Anakin got empowered despite not actually using the darkside at the time. By that example, Revan could easily tap into it like they did, especially since he actually uses the darkside normally. IIRC his darkside energy was called pure as well. At the very most there would be a irrelevant difference. But since it wasn't remotely highlighted as being a factor in the novel, it was obviously not significant in the least.

Honestly Neph, are you really this retarded? The argument is simple. Different Force powers are aligned with the dark side to different degrees. In which case Force lightning (read: pure dark side energy) > a failed attempt at tutanimis.

So Vitiate would have benefitted more. It's really that simple.

Revan uses the darkside freely. Geez, come on. 🙄

Originally posted by Nephthys
In terms of personality, but after regaining his memories he didn't exactly get the best chances to show over his powerset. The point is that he's still perfectly capable of using it, far moreso than Whie was.

It's more to do with how much you embrace the dark side than how much you use it.

Reborn Revan has only used the dark side when also calling upon the light.

The reverse is true for SoR Revan. He has only used the light side with the dark.

Ant: if your argument were accurate, then any battle between two Nryiss+ tier Force users would be resolved within the opening seconds if there's even a 3% difference in power between them.

Does that seem reasonable?

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Originally posted by The Ellimist
Ant: if your argument were accurate, then any battle between two Nryiss+ tier Force users would be resolved within the opening seconds if there's even a 3% difference in power between them.

Does that seem reasonable?

For example, Darth Nyriss charged up her energy for twenty seconds. Likewise for Vitiate and Revan in a comparable fashion for the second fight. So we're dealing with energy far more potent than usual.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The distinction being Force users don't channel their energy like they with with Darth Nyriss, Revan (second fight), and Vitiate (second fight), so we see an overall outlook rather than an elongated engagement.

For example, Darth Nyriss charged up her energy for twenty seconds. Likewise for Vitiate and Revan in a comparable fashion for the second fight. So we're dealing with energy far more potent than usual.

So where do you get the idea that equal power translates to tutanimus matching charged lightning? How do you know tutanimus doesn't have an advantage, just like how AotC Kenobi could deflect Dooku's lightning?

Tutaminis actually has a massive disadvantage. It's stated it's "virtually impossible" to "deflect" Force lightning.

Absorption isn't Deflection.

It's an integral part in tutaminis, and frankly adequate evidence tutaminis has no advantage over Force lightning.

It's stated it's "difficult" to use Force absorption n Force lightning in the SW Roleplaying Game, Second Edition.

So Yoda > Sidious, I suppose?

That's hardly my issue to worry about. You asked for reasoning on why tutaminis isn't inherently superior to Force lightning, and not only have I provided evidence it's at least equal (take Yoda and Palpatine), but rather tutaminis may be at the inherent disadvantage. 👆

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
It's stated it's "difficult" to use Force absorption n Force lightning in the SW Roleplaying Game, Second Edition.

"Difficult" isn't the same as "virtually impossible" or whatever you were quoting for Deflection earlier.

Good post, about two sub-Plagueis f8s 🙂