Originally posted by Zack MHe is a 5D Imp, and member of the Superman Squad:
Who is Klyxyzk?
Originally posted by krisblaze
Just wait an hour and I'm sure Zop or ID can give you a 500 page long treatise on why Wyncham's 2 appearances make him the most powerful character in marvel 👆
If you think thats bad wait until they start making the case for Klyxyzk, who has what 2 panel appearances and 0 feats. But some how he is going to get scalled to WF Mxy, becasue why the phuck not.
In all seriousness. Marvel would win. It DC mountain to climb, not Marvel since the battle would take place in thier home turf. And Marvel has much to bring to the table.
One can bring up Hourman w/gog. But Avengers/Illuminati have had an I.G.
Reed has access to the renment weapons vault, from the council of Reeds. that shit holds UN and stuff.
Scott is holding out with the Phoenix Egg.
You have in universe Space Gods (Galactus, Celestials, Proemial Gods etc..)
Power house character Molecule Man, Franklin Richards, Skyfathers, Hell Lords and Elder Gods etc..
Constant Abstracts (Eternity, Infinity, Death, Oblivion, LT etc..)
And some forgotten Cosmic Abstracts like the Infinities, Fullcrum, etc..
Beyonders from the beyond (unless they dont count).
Britain Corps, and thier weapons.
Reed could wake up Clyde, and Clyde would bring his monstrous power to the for front along characters he can summon from across the Multiverse. Imagine him bring Adult Franklin Richards, Mad Jim Jaspers, Jaimie Braddock (the Goat), Complete Legion....
The Goat and Legion are extremely dangerous.
The Goat when inside the Stsrlight Cidital can infinitely multiplay itself.
Legion has the capacity to infect and take over the oppisite ranks, and create a duplicates of himself.
^ You seem angry. 😕
But I'm not sure why anyone would try to power-scale Klyzyzk to Mxy-level, when Mxy himself is literally part of the Superman Squad in the 853rd century:
http://i.imgur.com/QKEZboO.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0gWKJxO.jpg
🙂
+1 for thinking outside the box. 👆
Yes, the Else-Men were exclusive to the 853rd century, and also very powerful...
Originally posted by Galan007
When Kal and the Legion found out about the Else-Men, they 'ported to Rann-Prime to combat them:
http://i.imgur.com/lWLwTlR.jpgAnd yes, Rann-Prime was obviously way outside their native solar system, thus way outside the reach of the Super Sun:
http://i.imgur.com/5YbNEfN.jpgSo no, Kal didn't have the opportunity to be recharged by the Sun after he was ragdolled by the Else-Man.
As you mentioned, the Else-Men were extremely powerful. Their basic powerset was to not only to copy a character's powers, but to expand upon them -- essentially becoming a 'better you':
http://i.imgur.com/3yyDrQ9.jpgThat said, I do not believe the Else-Man became Superman Prime 1M when it encountered Kal. However, it did become a better him:
http://i.imgur.com/fK2eKaL.jpg
"From the yellow sun that beats in my chest, to the powers I possess... I've just become the ultimate you!"Kal implied this Else-Man had become the being he always imagined himself becoming:
http://i.imgur.com/zdtZtrL.jpg
"When I was a boy! I'd daydream about what I'd be like when I grow up! I'd be him!"This isn't overly surprising. After all, an Else-Man was able to create an [albeit incomplete] copy of the full Worlogog, from the micro-fraction that Hourman still possessed. Even Metron was utterly shocked by this:
http://i.imgur.com/ZyPeMxm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/uQDhjLC.jpgThe only way to defeat the Else-Men was for Hourman to travel to the dawn of their universe, and freeze its big bang forever in time -- essentially preventing the Else-Men from ever existing:
http://i.imgur.com/s4skqtp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2ELHSWe.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iPobdxk.jpg
Originally posted by Galan007
The Else-Men are certainly worth mentioning, but any being with the ability to manipulate time/space on a universal level(such as an IG-wielder) could theoretically defeat them, as long as said abilities weren't duped beforehand.
That's a big If. Mainly because Marvel are fighting the whole 853rd century. Are the else - men on Protege level?
Originally posted by Zack MThere were numerous Else-Men...
How many were there? Or was there just one?
...Each one of those globes/spheres is an Else-Man.
Originally posted by Zack MFeat-wise, I wouldn't be comfortable placing them beyond universal. That said, absolutely NO upper-end cap for them was alluded to -- even Metron himself was awestruck by their abilities.
Are the else - men on Protege level?