DC's 853rd Century invades Marvel...

Originally posted by Galan007
RW's troll-spam is always cute, but the Dynasty's power COMES FROM Prime.

This scan(which was already posted) is clearly indicative of such:

Hell, you can actually *see* Prime using his own energy to endow that era's Superman(and by proxy, the entire Superman Dynasty) with his Source-gleaned power, in the lower right corner of the scan:

srsly

But this is the same guy who vehemently argues that Sentry is omniversal, so I wouldn't pay him any mind. He's just an attention whore. 👆

thanks for the scanz! 👆

Originally posted by Dareangel
again, the sun just made him that powerful by sitting there and absorbing all that energy. however golden prime doesnt depend on it.

dude seriously, you were wrong and you clearly see it so stop trying to troll out of it. in the scan you posted it clearly says golden prime is empowering the dynasty however it doesnt say the sun empowers him. he just sits there. you were wrong his powers are not dependant on the sun, you simply confused between him and kal kent big deal. are you a little kid that you cant admit you simply got confused between the 2 everybody can see that, you refusing to admit it further just portrays you as a joke.

oh so now you are making excuses? solaris wasnt at its full power blah blah blah. your initial claim was that golden prime couldnt handle solaris. now when you have been proven wrong, you try a new tactic and lean towards another direction. and you tell me to read the 1 million arc? i think we made it clear enough that its you who has to both read the arc again (if you ever read that before) and stop with your ADHD bursts of claiming something without making sure its even the right character Lol.

again, golden superman prime empowers the entire superman dynasty. that includes the 5 IMP's that ARE in the dynasty. blasting the post with scans that prove nothing and just there for some kind of "intimidation" effect is pointless. seriously. go read the arc again and calm that ADHD.

I have already answered to everything that was needed so I will completely ignore your answer.

You are clearly trying to flame-bait that thread and I'm not interested in it.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
I have already answered to everything that was needed so I will completely ignore your answer.

You are clearly trying to flame-bait that thread and I'm not interested in it.

Prime solos. 👆

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This is EVERY being from pre-SW ... vs one of DC's centuries?

... phukin kidding me? Marvel wins.

... and I'm not even a fan of voting in cross-company matches, but damn, yall are funny.

Originally posted by Mr Master
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This is EVERY being from pre-SW ... vs one of DC's centuries?

... phukin kidding me? Marvel wins.

... and I'm not even a fan of voting in cross-company matches, but damn, yall are funny.

You also know that Dynasty is also linked through the 5D Imps through marriage right? Even more, both Batmite and Mxy are part of that Dynasty?

Originally posted by SquallX

You also know that Dynasty is also linked through the 5D Imps through marriage right?
Even more, both Batmite and Mxy are part of that Dynasty?

We're talking every being in Marvel pre-SW. There's way too many ubers involved here.

This isn't WF, where Mxy is running around destroying defenseless universes,
where his top advisory gets stomped by having a single planet bopped over his head.

This is all of Marvel pre-SW combined.
There are catS here who tank universal and multiversal big bangs without a scratch,
there are catS here who have manipulated the entire omniverse, and then there's Thanos, Reed & Doom.

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Unless Galan is referring to only 616 right before SW,
meaning not including every cat ever in Marvel before SW.

Then that's different, cause then that's just a universe vs a universe.

Whatever on who wins that.

Mxy snaps his fingers and they're all gone.

Originally posted by Mr Master
That means nothing. I don't care who that one century got.

We're talking every being in Marvel pre-SW. There's way too many ubers involved here.

This isn't WF, where Mxy is running around destroying defenseless universes,
where his top advisory gets stomped by having a single planet bopped over his head.

This is all of Marvel pre-SW combined.
There are catS here who tank universal and multiversal big bangs without a scratch,
there are catS here who have manipulated the entire omniverse, and then there's Thanos, Reed & Doom.

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Unless Galan is referring to only 616 right before SW,
meaning not including every cat ever in Marvel before SW.

Then that's different, cause then that's just a universe vs a universe.

Whatever on who wins that.

You're Bias is showing bro, calm down.

There is so such a thing as this is not WF Mxy. All Mxy throughout the Multiverse, is the one in the same. This crap as been explained multiple times. It gets ****ing redundant when the same crap is regurgitated over and over again.

Also, it should matter that the 5D imps are part of the Dynasty.

Originally posted by SquallX

You're Bias is showing bro, calm down.

There is so such a thing as this is not WF Mxy. All Mxy throughout the Multiverse, is the one in the same. This crap as been explained multiple times. It gets ****ing redundant when the same crap is regurgitated over and over again.

Also, it should matter that the 5D imps are part of the Dynasty.

I never said Mxy wasn't this Mxy or that Mxy.
So, you should read more carefully that way you can avoid driveling aimless lectures in vain.

I clearly differentiated Mxy's obstacles in WF to what he faces here IF it was all of Marvel ever pre-SW.

So in Fact! ... I actually recognized WF and his feats therein
within the same post you chastised as if it alluded to anything other.

Now, that's funny ... cause it now shows who needs to really "calm down." 😬

Originally posted by SquallX
You're Bias is showing bro, calm down.

There is so such a thing as this is not WF Mxy. All Mxy throughout the Multiverse, is the one in the same. This crap as been explained multiple times. It gets ****ing redundant when the same crap is regurgitated over and over again.

Also, it should matter that the 5D imps are part of the Dynasty.

Dynasty are composed of some impressive beings.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Unless Galan is referring to only 616 right before SW,
meaning not including every cat ever in Marvel before SW.

Then that's different, cause then that's just a universe vs a universe.

Whatever on who wins that.

Apologies if I wasn't clear enough. 👆

Originally posted by RealityWarper
I have already answered to everything that was needed so I will completely ignore your answer.

You are clearly trying to flame-bait that thread and I'm not interested in it.

you simply got cornered and cant address my points. Consession accepted

Originally posted by RealityWarper
[B]The powers in question are stored in the Fortress of Solitude... They aren't Superman's own powers.

Where does it say that, at all? Superman gained new powers from his wanderings around the universe, and from the edge of space and time, gleaned new powers. So just like DCnU Superman developed a new solar flare power, Golden Superman developed brand new powers after going to the edge of space and time.

It isn't said that's Superman's own powers. It is said that they were gleaned and administrated by Superman via the Super-Sun aka his Fortress...

Read the sentence carefully again. It NEVER says it was gleaned via the Super Sun...ONLY that he administers it from there. It's like saying I obtain my energy from the actual McDonald's outlet, when in fact I obtain it from the 15 year old minimum wage worker who administers (i.e. hands out) the burgers.

The proof is that they vanishes without the presence of the Super-Sun.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Where does it say that, at all? Superman gained new powers from his wanderings around the universe, and from the edge of space and time, gleaned new powers. So just like DCnU Superman developed a new solar flare power, Golden Superman developed brand new powers after going to the edge of space and time.

Read the sentence carefully again. It NEVER says it was gleaned via the Super Sun...ONLY that he administers it from there. It's like saying I obtain my energy from the actual McDonald's outlet, when in fact I obtain it from the 15 year old minimum wage worker who administers (i.e. hands out) the burgers.

Yes, because without the administrator, there are no powers. If there is no McDonald's outlet where I am currently physically located, I cannot get my Big Mac. It does not mean, however, if Ronald McDonald were to show up to hand me my burger, that I cannot eat it just because I am not physically near an outlet.

Superman isn't showed in possession of new powers himself.

The entire point is that Kal Kent and the members of the Dynasty have new powers because of their affiliation with a 5D imp whom entered in their bloodline.

The fact is that Superman clearly find a way to awaken those latent powers thanks to the Super-Sun AND a way to administer new powers that were gleaned from the edge of space and time and stored in his Fortress of Solitude.

You can twist it in every way.

Superman never displayed new powers. He showed nothing proving that his more powerful than he was neither.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/administer

verb (used with object)
1.
to manage (affairs, a government, etc.); have executive charge of:
to administer the law.
2.
to bring into use or operation:
to administer justice; to administer last rites.
3.
to make application of; give:
to administer medicine.
4.
to supervise the formal taking of (an oath or the like).
5.
Law. to manage or dispose of, as a decedent's estate by an executor or administrator or a trust estate by a trustee.
verb (used without object)
6.
to contribute assistance; bring aid or supplies (usually followed by to):
to administer to the poor.
7.
to perform the duties of an administrator:
She administers quite effectively.

And administering something doesn't make you a wielder of that stuff.

You can administer a vaccine without having the possibility to cure someone yourself which is clearly the case with Superman here.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Superman isn't showed in possession of new powers himself.

The entire point is that Kal Kent and the members of the Dynasty have new powers because of their affiliation with a 5D imp whom entered in their bloodline.

The fact is that Superman clearly find a way to awaken those latent powers thanks to the Super-Sun AND a way to administer new powers that were gleaned from the edge of space and time and stored in his Fortress of Solitude.

You can twist it in every way.

Superman never displayed new powers. He showed nothing proving that his more powerful than he was neither.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/administer

verb (used with object)
1.
to manage (affairs, a government, etc.); have executive charge of:
to administer the law.
2.
to bring into use or operation:
to administer justice; to administer last rites.
3.
to make application of; give:
to administer medicine.
4.
to supervise the formal taking of (an oath or the like).
5.
Law. to manage or dispose of, as a decedent's estate by an executor or administrator or a trust estate by a trustee.
verb (used without object)
6.
to contribute assistance; bring aid or supplies (usually followed by to):
to administer to the poor.
7.
to perform the duties of an administrator:
She administers quite effectively.

And administering something doesn't make you a wielder of that stuff.

You can administer a vaccine without having the possibility to cure someone yourself which is clearly the case with Superman here.

Good analogy.

If a doctor administers a vaccine whilst sitting in a hospital - is it the actual building itself giving me immunity? Or is it the doctor?

If I rang him from home, and he made house calls - just because the hospital is not physically present, does that mean I cannot get the vaccine? No.

Yet, if the doctor did NOT make house calls - without the hospital, I will lose my vaccine, and thus, the immunity.

But for the purposes of this thread, the doctor, as they say, is in.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But for the purposes of this thread, the doctor, as they say, is in.

I say again: this portion of the scan makes it abundantly clear that the amp COMES FROM Prime:

We can literally SEE him 'blasting' a member of the Dynasty with this energy FROM his person... We can literally SEE him giving the amp.

Simple facts are simple. 👆

i agree with the semantics of Prime administering the power that is clear.

it looks like to me in the scan that the prime is getting that power from the sun. the suns rays are going into his back at the same time he is imbuing power to the other superman.

If a doctor administers a vaccine whilst sitting in a hospital - is it the actual building itself giving me immunity? Or is it the doctor?

the immunity comes from the vaccine itself which would make the doctor and the hospital moot if you could get it elsewhere

It doesn't matter which analogy you use, so long as you understand that the power comes from Prime himself. HE is the source/battery/wellspring/etc. of the Dynasty, post-700th century.

Originally posted by staxamillion
i agree with the semantics of Prime administering the power that is clear.

it looks like to me in the scan that the prime is getting that power from the sun. the suns rays are going into his back at the same time he is imbuing power to the other superman.

If a doctor administers a vaccine whilst sitting in a hospital - is it the actual building itself giving me immunity? Or is it the doctor?

the immunity comes from the vaccine itself which would make the doctor and the hospital moot if you could get it elsewhere

Exactly and Superman doesn't posses new powers.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Exactly and Superman doesn't posses new powers.

Did you even read that arc. Prime studied under the Source itself, so how it is far fetched that he could have gained new powers?