Valkorion vs. every Jedi in history

Started by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ3 pages
Originally posted by Beniboybling
If Valkorion could have killed or otherwise pacified Arcann, he would have done it himself yeah.

He did do it himself. 😬

Where?

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Pretty sure it was explicitly Valkorion's power, given that Arcann notes after the exchange that his father's power has changed/gotten weaker, and that even if you choose a non force sensitive, the result is still the same. Plus Valkorion's the one who essentially gave the Outlander the power necessary to defeat Arcann in Chapter 16.

Yes, it's his father's power in the body of the Outlander. Valkorion needs the Outlander's body to channel his power. He can't do it as a spirit.

And despite Valkorion giving the Outlander power, the latter was still inferior to Arcann.

...yeah. But you explicitly said that Valkorion's spirit would lose to Arcann and Vaylin. That's evidently not the case.

Not really.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Where?

Chapter 8. 🙂

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
[B]...yeah. But you explicitly said that Valkorion's spirit would lose to Arcann and Vaylin. That's evidently not the case.

Well, if Valkorion couldve done it as a spirit, he would've. Even with the Outlander's body it took him a lengthy period before he managed to overwhelm Arcann. He wouldn't succeed with no body.

Not really.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QU71fcJiWDM?t=49

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Well yeah, but at the same time, Arcann and Vaylin wouldn't be able to hurt him, lol. What I'm saying is that his power is enough to defeat Arcann and Vaylin in a fight, he just wouldn't have a vessel to channel the power through, so in that event, neither would be able to hurt the other.

Lol. Do you have any idea how many similar pre-fight cutscenes there are in SWTOR? The Outlander proceeds to block his strikes barehanded and beat his ass. 👆

Ah, so you agree. Good.

I don't agree that, as you explicitly said, "Arcann and Vaylin could duo Valkorion."

Destroying a Sith spirit isn't that complicated.

Tell that to SWTOR.

Originally posted by Azronger
Yes, it's his father's power in the body of the Outlander. Valkorion needs the Outlander's body to channel his power. He can't do it as a spirit.

Wrong:

https://i.imgur.com/NBrLtJd.mp4

Chapter 12 makes it clear that Valkorion didn't need a physical body to affect the external environment. Not sure why you thought this was the case.

Originally posted by Azronger
And despite Valkorion giving the Outlander power, the latter was still inferior to Arcann.

Wrong again.

The Outlander was powerful enough to defeat Arcann after that augmentation. Check chapter 16.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Wrong:

https://i.imgur.com/NBrLtJd.mp4

Chapter 12 makes it clear that Valkorion didn't need a physical body to affect the external environment. Not sure why you thought this was the case.

I never said he couldn't affect the environment, lol.

Wrong again.

The Outlander was powerful enough to defeat Arcann after that augmentation. Check chapter 16.

Nothing in there implied superiority to Arcann. He lost the duel because he lost his footing due to external factors, and blocking lightsaber blades is something Satele Shan and Shaak Ti (and even the Barsen'thor as of chapter 8) can do, yet you wouldn't suggest they're better than Arcann, would you?

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Tell that to SWTOR.

http://i.imgur.com/1OXMI7o.jpg

That fails to address what I said. No one knows how to kill Valkorion.